Some Assembly is Required

Atlas · 2026-07-13T14:06:10Z

The Germans basically didn't make the list. There aren't a lot of shade-tree mechanics who work on them in general. At some point the economic equation of keeping a car alive favors junking it. Anecdote/experience tells me this is the case versus actual bad engines/engineering. Not that there isn't any, but there are definitely notable excellent examples. The 2.0 diesels will go forever and ever if one keeps the car around it running. The 2.0 gas cars eventually wear out their turbos but the block below it is usually still solid as a rock. BMW inline 6's same thing. Mercedes diesels of yesteryear, not uncommon to see 250k out of those engines, easy.

Link to the synopsis of the study:

https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study

Atlas · 2026-07-13T14:13:00Z

1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:

Break-in reality check? Very strange to such a cautious (and threatening) break-in procedure on a 2026 vehicle but yet Ram deemed this necessary on their DC650 sport truck.
This is a stock 5.7 Hemi with a blower bolted onto it. Internally nothing different from the engine in millions of other trucks, so why the “excessive” break-in? And why then wouldn’t a “normal” truck also benefit from following it? Rhetorical questions of course…

I think the answer is it's a stock 5.7 Hemi with a 3.0L blower bolted onto it

Practically, because a blower introduces a lot of high pressure, severe thermal stress, and extreme mechanical loads on an engine. Things still need a little time to seat and get used to moving under load.

Sarcastically, because it's a Stellantis/ 5.7 Hemi and those things need all the help they can get!!

KARNUT · 2026-07-13T14:51:29Z

46 minutes ago, Atlas said:

0w20 is recommended in the Sequoia. 0w16 in the Highlander Hybrid.

I think you make a compelling case for both the quality and frequency of maintenance but I wouldn't go so far as to plot a linear relationship between longevity and oil weight

The list is interesting and leaves me with some questions. The Silverado 1500 is 12.9% likely while the GMC Sierra 1500 is only 10.8% likely. Arguably, they're the same truck, so other factors must be influencing the outcome.

The Honda Odyssey ranks #12 at 13% likely. Great. Rest assured we'll never stop hearing about the dang thing LOL.

There's a bit of a spread between the 4Runner (32.9%) and Tacoma (25.3%). Both overlap on the same 4.0 for many years although the Tacoma used a 3.5 for the last 10-12ish. I wonder if that's related to use-case or if it's suggesting the 3.5 isn't quite as up to the task, or maybe something else fails mechanically.

Ram at 3.5% overall likely, but the Ram 3500 holds the top spot on the Heavy Duty Models at 39.7%. One might say the Cummins is a ringer and provides an unfair advantage. I don't think it's fair/accurate to pit the GM Fullsize 1500's in a list with HD's which are basically medium-duty wearing a 3500 badge.

The Tahoe and Suburban hold spots #15 and #8, respectively, on the longest lasting SUV's list. What's the difference? One's got a shorter butt, unless they're also counting the 2500/3500 Suburbans in those numbers.

The GMC Canyon gets a 1.4% increase over its twin brother Colorado. Why, because it's prettier?

SO many questions...

You may like to pick on Odyssey owners and that’s fine. I’ve owned more Chevys than most people as well as Fords. And will own more. If a vehicle surprises me I like to make it known. We don’t all survive with one vehicle. And surprise, surprise not all are GMS. I don’t usually bring my business vehicles in the conversation because they’re work vehicles. If Chevy had a mini van I’d probably own one. Same with a 4 door rear drive car. They don’t so I’m forced to look elsewhere.

Atlas · 2026-07-13T14:57:48Z

1 minute ago, KARNUT said:

You may like to pick on Odyssey owners and that’s fine. I’ve owned more Chevys than most people as well as Fords. And will own more. If a vehicle surprises me I like to make it known. We don’t all survive with one vehicle. And surprise, surprise not all are GMS. I don’t usually bring my business vehicles in the conversation because they’re work vehicles. If Chevy had a mini van I’d probably own one. Same with a 4 door rear drive car. They don’t so I’m forced to look elsewhere.

On a more serious note, the Traverse is basically a minivan with large car-like rear doors. Versatile, comfortable, and FWD/AWD, unibody design makes them nice drivers and pretty efficient considering their size. But, being honest the last small-ish van of GM's that I liked was the Astro.