Oil Consumption

[riddler]

13 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

That's just a dumb question. Because the engines have big enough sumps to keep the engine lubricated during the race, usually 12-14 quarts. Adding oil could cost precious time, or the entire race ($ millions and millions in sponsorships) and the potential of spilled fluids leading to disqualification.

 

But that doesn't mean they don't burn oil. Burning 2 quarts isn't unusual for a 500 mile Nascar race.

Keep being foolish dude

[KARNUT]

4 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

What? That makes no sense and nobody cares about your family business ownership stake here.

 

And yeah, I am technical. We're talking about engines on an enthusiast forum.

You’re a hoot. You can list yours but I can’t list mine? It does go towards experience. Of which I have lots along with the family business that is on going. But you can have the last word. It seems you need that. Rock on.

[Atlas]

7 minutes ago, riddler said:

Keep being foolish dude

 

So prove my statement wrong, offer factual data to the contrary instead of only chiming in with insults. I've actually worked with pit crews. Have you?

[Atlas]

9 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

You’re a hoot. You can list yours but I can’t list mine? It does go towards experience. Of which I have lots along with the family business that is on going. But you can have the last word. It seems you need that. Rock on.

 

Tell us another story about how great your minivan is, I need a good laugh to end this one. Your sulking away in a huff indicates you finally Google-AI'd the question do all engines burn oil and even Alexa says you're a DA.

Edited May 30 by Atlas

[KARNUT]

15 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Tell us another story about how great your minivan is, I need a good laugh to end this one. Your sulking away in a huff indicates you finally Google-AI'd the question do all engines burn oil and even Alexa says you're a DA.

My minivan. I use for trips. My wife has to travel in the back seat so she can lay down. It’s a long story. I hated it for about an hour. I always had high performance vehicles or modified them. When it wears out I will get another one. If you spend time in one you will understand. I’ve never had a regular vehicle this long. And never replaced a vehicle with a same model. I answered because the topic was changed. 

[riddler]

25 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

So prove my statement wrong, offer factual data to the contrary instead of only chiming in with insults. I've actually worked with pit crews. Have you?

Yes I have but you have no respect for family business so I shall not cast my pearls bfore swine

[Atlas]

3 minutes ago, riddler said:

Yes I have but you have no respect for family business so I shall not cast my pearls bfore swine

 

Please don't cast your pearls. Nobody wants that. Eww

[riddler]

1 minute ago, Atlas said:

 

Please don't cast your pearls. Nobody wants that. Eww

Last word to you good day 

[Atlas]

5 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

My minivan. I use for trips. My wife has to travel in the back seat so she can lay down. It’s a long story. I hated it for about an hour. I always had high performance vehicles or modified them. When it wears out I will get another one. If you spend time in one you will understand. I’ve never had a regular vehicle this long. And never replaced a vehicle with a same model. I answered because the topic was changed. 

 

kNut, I hear ya. Minivans are extremely functional vehicles, they get gas mileage more like a car than a truck and have amazing hauling ability and are comfortable on trips. We can agree on that.

[Grumpy Bear]

5 hours ago, KARNUT said:

So you rather people think everyone has an oil burning problem? ........................... Maybe it all comes down to using Amsoil. Even during my extended days. If you don’t like it block me once again. I don’t need your approval.

 

Is that what I said Stan? Literally, what did I say?

 

10 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Then you haven't any relevant input for those that have had that experience, right? 

 

And this was in response to?????

 

19 hours ago, KARNUT said:

19 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

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I’ve never experienced that phenomenon.

 

And what phenomenon was that? 

 

8 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

On 5/27/2026 at 2:05 PM, riddler said:

Thanks for the info. No leaks using about a qt every 3k. I have 31k on it been burning oil since 20k. I will put Valvoline in it my next oil change.

 

 

My response was directly to the point of discussion. An experience SAID you've never experienced and so....you haven't any relevant experienced based information on that topic. It ain't that hard sir. 

 

Why drag it into the weeds implying I said or inferred something you know I did say nor intend?  I know you have experience and are a good observer and I have always valued your input to the degree you share those experiences. 

 

3 hours ago, riddler said:

Humpy Bear, aka GM fanboy. Block us both please. Your irrelevant. @Grumpy Bear

 

I see you're one of those people that thinks they can 'say a thing true' if they repeat it long enough. Keep repeating to yourself, "Gravity is irrelevant and people that believe it are stupid." Then step off a cliff and ask yourself on the way down if physics gives a rats *ss about your belief. Your truck doesn't care either what you believe but it WILL respond to those beliefs exactly as you feed them. 

 

 I hit a nerve repeating your words back to you trapping you in your inconsistency and NOW you want me to block you and protect you from the big bad bear? Fat chance. Bear is hungry 

[KARNUT]

7 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Is that what I said Stan? Literally, what did I say?

 

 

And this was in response to?????

 

 

And what phenomenon was that? 

 

 

My response was directly to the point of discussion. An experience SAID you've never experienced and so....you haven't any relevant experienced based information on that topic. It ain't that hard sir. 

 

Why drag it into the weeds implying I said or inferred something you know I did say nor intend?  I know you have experience and are a good observer and I have always valued your input to the degree you share those experiences. 

 

 

I see you're one of those people that thinks they can 'say a thing true' if they repeat it long enough. Keep repeating to yourself, "Gravity is irrelevant and people that believe it are stupid." Then step off a cliff and ask yourself on the way down if physics gives a rats *ss about your belief. Your truck doesn't care either what you believe but it WILL respond to those beliefs exactly as you feed them. 

 

 I hit a nerve repeating your words back to you trapping you in your inconsistency and NOW you want me to block you and protect you from the big bad bear? Fat chance. Bear is hungry 

Ha Ha. Sometimes I don’t understand you. I do value your input. 

[Grumpy Bear]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

All combustion engines burn oil, literally, by design. The cylinder walls have to remain lubricated between strokes of the piston which means the rings can't and shouldn't totally wipe the cylinder walls clean when they pass. As such, oil on the cylinder walls is present during the combustion phase and is also susceptible to combustion, i.e. burning. And that's in a perfectly healthy engine with perfectly seated rings with perfect maintenance,........

 

True and well explained. 

 

*********General comment below not directed to Atlas***************

 

So what does it mean when I say Pepper uses no oil?  That for the duration of my chosen OCI there is no perceptible movement in level on the stick. 

 

When I change plugs on the DOD cylinders they have some oil on the threads. Normal. Explained by the above missive. So I know it uses oil. Just isn't a MEASUREABE amount by the METHOD I choose to gauge it by. The dip stick. 

 

Why doesn't it change if it uses oil? Fuel, soot, moisture in a good GDI gas motor can be up to 4% total of the oil volume so in a six quart system at change time could be as much as 7.68 ounces of a six quart system. Call it a cup. Half a pint of lost oil made up by contamination products. 

 

Think it through. 

[riddler]

52 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Is that what I said Stan? Literally, what did I say?

 

 

And this was in response to?????

 

 

And what phenomenon was that? 

 

 

My response was directly to the point of discussion. An experience SAID you've never experienced and so....you haven't any relevant experienced based information on that topic. It ain't that hard sir. 

 

Why drag it into the weeds implying I said or inferred something you know I did say nor intend?  I know you have experience and are a good observer and I have always valued your input to the degree you share those experiences. 

 

 

I see you're one of those people that thinks they can 'say a thing true' if they repeat it long enough. Keep repeating to yourself, "Gravity is irrelevant and people that believe it are stupid." Then step off a cliff and ask yourself on the way down if physics gives a rats *ss about your belief. Your truck doesn't care either what you believe but it WILL respond to those beliefs exactly as you feed them. 

 

 I hit a nerve repeating your words back to you trapping you in your inconsistency and NOW you want me to block you and protect you from the big bad bear? Fat chance. Bear is hungry 

Grumpy humpy likes antagonism. GM has brain washed you into believing your driving habits control oil consumption ha!

 

[Atlas]

The level of trolling from someone who joined on Tuesday of last week is pretty high. My guess is former member promoted to visitor who created a new account, or is using a shadow account to bypass user blocks. Just a guess. :shrug:

[riddler]

10 minutes ago, Atlas said:

The level of trolling from someone who joined on Tuesday of last week is pretty high. My guess is former member promoted to visitor who created a new account, or is using a shadow account to bypass user blocks. Just a guess. :shrug:

Some punks hide behind the internet, otherwise feel brave. FAFO