i just saw the new dodge power wagon

killerZ-71 · April 29, 2005

i saw the NEW DODGE RAM POWER WAGON, oh my god!!! i HATE HATE HATE to

say it, but this truck is INCREDIBLE. it is the meanest truck i think i have ever seen. in stock form it is LIFTED WITH BFG MUD TERRAINS. i am going to wait to

see what gm does with the new silverado, but if it is not beefier and meanier, i am

going to look at this new power wagon, as a new truck. the rims on the power wagon are really mean, it comes standard with a winch on the front. wait, until you see this thing.

BADGERMAN · April 29, 2005

I looked at one at the local dealship this last weekend.

It is a pretty cool truck, lots of cool extras on it.

I guy that works with me is going to buy at the end of the year.

When you looked at it, did you notice the sway bar disconnect in the front for more articulation, pretty cool idea.

kosb · April 29, 2005

I stopped by and checked it out. Its packed with great off road items. I wish that they offered it with the Cummins. Not that it means anything but the sales dork told me that the Colorado division of wildlife had ordered some as patrol trucks.

I hope the general will realize that some trucks really do leave the pavement and counter with something at least as good.

snoman · April 29, 2005

i saw the NEW DODGE RAM POWER WAGON, oh my god!!! i HATE HATE HATE to
say it, but this truck is INCREDIBLE. it is the meanest truck i think i have ever seen. in stock form it is LIFTED WITH BFG MUD TERRAINS. i am going to wait to

see what gm does with the new silverado, but if it is not beefier and meanier, i am

going to look at this new power wagon, as a new truck. the rims on the power wagon are really mean, it comes standard with a winch on the front. wait, until you see this thing.

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If they would just put a good motor in it (like the V10) they would really have something. The cummins would be to heavy for serious offroad work and would act like a boat anchor in front in deep mud or sand and would not have the wide RPM range that is desirable in a off road machine. I have drive dodges in the past with V10 and sticks and they were awesome I must say with the power band they had. The Hemi just does not cut it as it lacks the torque and lower RPMs to make the truck dance.

Mark_in_Tulsa · April 29, 2005

Im just curious with all the extras that they have put on it, if it would be cheaper to just by a regular Ram, and just add your extras.

kosb · April 29, 2005

The diesels work nice on steep rocky trails at high altitude. They really let you crawl with out any noticeable loss of power due to altitude. But they are heavy. I think they should at least give you the choice of motors.

JRW68 · April 29, 2005

Im just curious with all the extras that they have put on it, if it would be cheaper to just by a regular Ram, and just add your extras.

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My thoughts exactly.. then you would have all the necessities you really need. Im not completly familar with the package but it appears to start at around 38g?... the only real pricey component would be the lockers.

snoman · April 29, 2005

The diesels work nice on steep rocky trails at high altitude. They really let you crawl with out any noticeable loss of power due to altitude. But they are heavy. I think they should at least give you the choice of motors.

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Oil burner are not bad a fixed RPMs or in narrow RPM ranges but do not have the abilty to go from 1000 to 4500 rpm or more in a heart beat and cover a wide range of speeds in one gear plus you are lugging extra 500 to 600 lbs up those hills and beside I have been up pikes pike 3 times in my 89 burb with a 350 and alway found the engine up to the task and at that altitude and oil burner is realy weak at low RPMs until the boost builds some where as a gas engine responds about the same part throttle but make less peak and WOT power.

BADGERMAN · April 29, 2005

Well the one that I had seen at the Dealership stickered at about $42,000

As far as buying a regular ram and adding the features, I don't think that it would be cheaper.

Those lockers are real expensive, so is the sway bar disconnect.

I think that it has a different tranfer case also.

I don't even think that you could get those lockers, tranfer case or the sway bar disconnect for a regular ram yet.

It basically has the same setup as the Jeep Rubicon.

snoman · April 29, 2005

Well the one that I had seen at the Dealership stickered at about $42,000

As far as buying a regular ram and adding the features, I don't think that it would be cheaper.

Those lockers are real expensive, so is the sway bar disconnect.

I think that it has a different tranfer case also.

I don't even think that you could get those lockers, tranfer case or the sway bar disconnect for a regular ram yet.

It basically has the same setup as the Jeep Rubicon.

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I believe they use a electo locking gear based LSD diff like the Jeep does too. A nice setup and I wish GM offered something like it too in OEM P/U's as they are very smooth operating units with no chatters and nothing to really wear out either.

Elwood 2000 · April 30, 2005

I must say, the Jeep Rubicon was the most intelligent thing any Manufacturer has done in DECADES and carrying a similar package over into the full size truck market is almost as smart. If only GM and Furd would catch on.....

There are still a few people out here who use trucks like truck, not just mall cruisers!

WyRam · April 30, 2005

5.7 and 3/4 ton is a bad combo.

HillHound · April 30, 2005

Agree with Wyram 100%. A 5.7L high-revving engine in a 3/4 pickup with a bunch of extra (heavy) off-road stuff spells gutless.

They had to put 4.56s on the thing just to get it to climb and every magazine I've read said the whole concept was awesome but they needed more power than the Hemi can provide.

And a diesel ain't the answer. The power is there, but the last thing you need in an offoroad rig is and extra 500lbs of deadweigh over the front axle. That's why you never see any of those hardcore rock rigs using diesels. Most are large block gas engines or tuned small blocks. Even larger V6's in some of the smaller ones.

Ford or GM will get it right. A similar truck with a Ford 6.8L V10 with 4.30s or a GM 8.1L and 4.10s would do the trick.

JRW68 · April 30, 2005

I just dont see the purpose.. yeah sure its neat, but I have no intention on taking a 40,000 truck out and beat it...

I bought my 05' to take me to work, pull a trailer when needed, get me unstuck when im stuck, pull people out if they are stuck. I pull hay wagons out of the field, it can go down loggin roads while hunting (and not get scratched to hell because its 10 ft tall) and in the end... I have a nice looking truck that is fun to drive and practical

Ive done my fair share of four-wheeling and bigger ISN'T better... bigger means more stuck! IF you TRUELY need that type of ride for a daily driver thats fine but Im fairly certain that 90% of the people out there dont need it.... AND IF, you have the money to blow and want to beat a 40g ride... more power to ya... but there are alot neater/better things out there than any manufacturer will put on for ya..

If you doubt my experience.. have a look-see An old website of mine

im no pro, but we have destroyed our fair share of vehicles

Maybe Ill try posting some of my 79 GMC 4wheelin photos if have time... out of all things me and my buddy constructed.. the samari did the best.. and its the smallest

I agree.. the diesel wouldn't be a good choice... too much torque is a bad thing and so is a short power band