Jump to content

1/2 Ton Duramax

Super-Pro

Recommended Posts

Super-Pro Enthusiast

Super-Pro

Posted
Posted

I remember reading a while back in a magazine that GM would be producing a 1/2 ton version of the Duramax. Anybody heard anything lately about this. Just curious...

Ranger Senior Enthusiast

Ranger

Posted
Posted

Nope, and I wouldn't expect any. I think GM'll be bottoms up before they even get a prototype.

c4cruiser Enthusiast

c4cruiser

Posted
Posted

With GM's current financial troubles, we may not see anything really new and different for some time even if development has got to where there are Beta behicles out and running.

 

Diesel fuel prices are still high (at least around here it's a buck more than 87 octane) compared to gasoline and unless a new smaller motor can provide much improved fuel economy, and deliver increased power for hauling and towing in a 1/2 ton truck, there would not be any real advantage. There's also a chance that new and tighter emission controls for diesel trucks may raise production costs to where a 1/2 ton diesel would not be cost-effective to build.

bubba33 Enthusiast

bubba33

Posted
Posted

I do not think GM will go under. I don't know if they would be in a hurry to build a 1500 diesel. If diesel is a buck more a gallon it will be hard to justify it.I sold my cummins because of the price of diesel. It got about 4 mpg bettter than the chevy someimes 5.Mine was a 03 and now they are putting all the emissions on the diesels which causes more problems than there worth.

kdm101 Enthusiast

kdm101

Posted
Posted
Nope, and I wouldn't expect any. I think GM'll be bottoms up before they even get a prototype.

 

Oh, they have prototypes already.

 

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f12/det...-duramax-53936/

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/08/25/de...max-diesel-v-8/

 

With GM's current financial troubles, we may not see anything really new and different for some time even if development has got to where there are Beta behicles out and running.

 

Diesel fuel prices are still high (at least around here it's a buck more than 87 octane) compared to gasoline and unless a new smaller motor can provide much improved fuel economy, and deliver increased power for hauling and towing in a 1/2 ton truck, there would not be any real advantage. There's also a chance that new and tighter emission controls for diesel trucks may raise production costs to where a 1/2 ton diesel would not be cost-effective to build.

 

 

I disagree. For those that tow gear around all the time, having the extra power of the diesel will ultimately equate to fuel savings over an equivalent gas powered model. Even if it's only in the 3 to 5 MPG range, the savings will ultimately pay off. Add to that the use of biofuel and you could come out even further ahead.

mr_bots Enthusiast

mr_bots

Posted
Posted

I remember reading about this a while back. Seem very interesting, outside the box approach: exhaust in the V, intake on the outside. Hopefully it's still on track.

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

pm26

Posted
Posted

It will be made in China in Tuo-Sang Shanghai plant, a product of the Lee-Tata motors, Inc.

 

It will not have any wheels - it will be a hovercraft.

bubba33 Enthusiast

bubba33

Posted
Posted
Nope, and I wouldn't expect any. I think GM'll be bottoms up before they even get a prototype.

 

Oh, they have prototypes already.

 

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f12/det...-duramax-53936/

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/08/25/de...max-diesel-v-8/

 

With GM's current financial troubles, we may not see anything really new and different for some time even if development has got to where there are Beta behicles out and running.

 

Diesel fuel prices are still high (at least around here it's a buck more than 87 octane) compared to gasoline and unless a new smaller motor can provide much improved fuel economy, and deliver increased power for hauling and towing in a 1/2 ton truck, there would not be any real advantage. There's also a chance that new and tighter emission controls for diesel trucks may raise production costs to where a 1/2 ton diesel would not be cost-effective to build.

 

 

I disagree. For those that tow gear around all the time, having the extra power of the diesel will ultimately equate to fuel savings over an equivalent gas powered model. Even if it's only in the 3 to 5 MPG range, the savings will ultimately pay off. Add to that the use of biofuel and you could come out even further ahead.

 

3 to 5 mpg does not pay off.When diesel is .80 to 1.00 a gallon higher. Been there done that.
VMax2007 Senior Enthusiast

VMax2007

Posted
Posted
3 to 5 mpg does not pay off.When diesel is .80 to 1.00 a gallon higher. Been there done that.

 

That depends on how you use your truck.

bubba33 Enthusiast

bubba33

Posted
Posted
3 to 5 mpg does not pay off.When diesel is .80 to 1.00 a gallon higher. Been there done that.

 

That depends on how you use your truck.

 

Well I use mine to work out of and the #s did not add up to me. As far as how you use it a 1500 can only haul and tow so much legally.So I can not see using a 1500 as a hot shot truck. I doubt the 1500 diesel is going to have the same hp tq as a 2500 or 3500. IMO and I am sure we do not have the same type calculator. :sigh::sigh::lol:

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Atlas
      OCI, not when but why?

      By Atlas · Posted

      On the subject of OLM, Gm's OLM tool may be more "informed" than others brands. I recall OLM's in mid-2000's Chrysler products literally counting down a set number of miles. That's all the OLM appeared to be.    I would actually expect GM to be able to explain the parameters that their OLM takes into account from a high level. No, I would not expect them to disclose their software coding or data analysis around their parameters.   So we're talking about two different topics, so to continue the subject on the other one, I'd be curious to know how much "standard particulate matter" in fresh oil is able to be filtered at first start by a fresh oil filter. How much particulate matter is enough to "matter"?   I.e. how much of a "lever" do we think this equates to (variability in particulate content, in fresh oils, between different makes/brands, some which filter less, and some that filter more).   We can say that more particles = more wear = shorter engine life as a logical statement and use that data with a little marketing to scare people into selecting a more refined/filtered oil. Using a similie, is this like deciding to forego two alcoholic drinks in a lifetime because we're worried about the potential impact on lifespan? Are there numbers which translate the ISO test results into a quantifiable increase in wear for a given engine/use case?
    • chris21
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By chris21 · Posted

      I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually recalibrate the speedometer it just changes the wheel speed sensor inputs to the computer. The truck still thinks it has stock tires.
    • asilverblazer
      OCI, not when but why?

      By asilverblazer · Posted

      I apologize, I missed this post, at risk of going off CURRENT TOPIC.   I'm not saying it is BS, I'm questioning how much information is being held back. GM is NOT going to spell out exactly every parameter in the algorithm. Liability, intellectual property, etc.    I'm not naive enough to believe that it is as simple as revolutions, coolant temperature, miles, time; are you?    I don't do irrational either, and boiling the OLM down to four simple values that I could code in an afternoon (I'm not a coder) is irrational - unless it suits your agenda to ignore it. 
    • BDS my HD
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By BDS my HD · Posted

      Chris 21 I appreciate your constructive response. !!  😉😉😉   The 6.6 is gas.  Correct me if I’m wrong but by recalibrating the speedo you’re correcting the shift points of the transmission on these trucks.?.
    • newdude
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By newdude · Posted

      That is a huge misconception.     Bigger does not always equal safer.  Modifying does not make it safer either, with exceptions.   Think of this.  Your truck in stock form is capable of emergency maneuvers, proper stopping distances, its handling is designed around the factory wheel/tire packages, etc.   37s and a lift?  Now you've affected your braking distances, handling and ride control.  You've raised your center of gravity higher.  Your front visibility is now obstructed more than stock, same for your rear.  Does it look cooler?  Yes.  Does it now work as good as it did from factory on road?  NO.       As for my mention of exceptions?  Say you had a sedan or crossover.  They typically come with all season tires.  If you swap out for a performance all season or a summer tire, you improve your car by lowering its stopping distance (better braking because of traction) and improve the handling (regular and emergency) of the vehicle.  That is an actually improving modification.  My old 2019 LD 1500, I ran UHP all season tires on 20in wheels in a factory offered size.  It improved all aspects of how it drove over the Duratracs it came with from the factory in the stock 18" tire.  

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...