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TexasAl Enthusiast

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Cool. Thanks for the detailed update. I've never had to remove the CMS, but if I ever do, now I know where to come for help.

 

-Al

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reidrhollander Enthusiast

reidrhollander

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So I got a used set of rails off ebay but when I got it it was missing 5 of the toggles and 2 of the bolts. I broke down and ordered the toggles from GM because I figured I wasn't going to have much luck finding them anywhere else (gmpartsdirect was the same price after shipping). However I would like to try and match the body bolts that come with the system but GM wants $8 per bolt. Does anyone know what size these are and a good source for body bolts?

 

Until then I am just using regular hex heads but I would like everything to match.

JTS1469 Enthusiast

JTS1469

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I'm trying to buy a set off ebay right now. Just woundering if I buy an long bed set would I be able to trim the side pieces to work on a standard bed. Not looking to hack it up it just seems everything is kind of adjustable.

Thanks in advance

JTS

shocktrp Enthusiast

shocktrp

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I'm trying to buy a set off ebay right now. Just woundering if I buy an long bed set would I be able to trim the side pieces to work on a standard bed. Not looking to hack it up it just seems everything is kind of adjustable.

Thanks in advance

JTS

 

The bolt holes won't line up on the sides (the front piece should be the same).

JTS1469 Enthusiast

JTS1469

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I bought the cms and now have a few questions. The bed liner I have isnt for the system. What type of hole do I need to make? Does it have to be as big as the plates or just enough for the bolt assy. to go through. I'm going to pull out the liner to make the holes but could use a little insight on how the need to sit on the wall...

Thanks JTS

Z45 Senior Enthusiast

Z45

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The bed liner will have to go as it will be in the way. You can try cutting it but that will be a huge trial and error project and chances are you will end up cutting to much away so that the liner will not fit snugly as it should. Cutting just the holes won't work, you have to trim away a lot of the liner or it will never go back in. GM has a liner especially for the CMS but you should only put it in after installing the CMS. I made the mistake of thinking it would be easier if I installed the GM liner first then the CMS but as it turned out the liner got in the way of installing the rails and turned a 15 m in job in several hours wresting with the hard plastic liner to clear the rails.

 

 

However I would like to try and match the body bolts that come with the system but GM wants $8 per bolt. Does anyone know what size these are and a good source for body bolts?

 

Buy the ones from GM, these are specialty bolts and you won't find anything close to matching with the right thread + they have a special head that holds the torgue.

reidrhollander Enthusiast

reidrhollander

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The bed liner will have to go as it will be in the way. You can try cutting it but that will be a huge trial and error project and chances are you will end up cutting to much away so that the liner will not fit snugly as it should. Cutting just the holes won't work, you have to trim away a lot of the liner or it will never go back in. GM has a liner especially for the CMS but you should only put it in after installing the CMS. I made the mistake of thinking it would be easier if I installed the GM liner first then the CMS but as it turned out the liner got in the way of installing the rails and turned a 15 m in job in several hours wresting with the hard plastic liner to clear the rails.

 

 

However I would like to try and match the body bolts that come with the system but GM wants $8 per bolt. Does anyone know what size these are and a good source for body bolts?

 

Buy the ones from GM, these are specialty bolts and you won't find anything close to matching with the right thread + they have a special head that holds the torgue.

 

 

I ended up just buying normal bolts and using a washer. There is nothing special about the threads on these bolts and I just put them in the forward most hole and the end caps cover them up.

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debfrank44 New Member

debfrank44

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jacksonrh64--

 

following your old post on the cargo management system. i've installed rails and tool box wothout any problem. but the rear ladder rack doesn't slide onto the rails after they are installed. the high part of the box sheetmetal gets in the way of sliding the ladder rack bracket onto the cms rail. i could remove the rail, mount the ladder rack and then reinstall the rail, but that doesn't seem how it should work. don't know if you have the ladder rack, but any ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll answer my own post. I've installed mine and figured it all out. Here it is for anybody else that may need it.

 

Just take a small flat screw driver and pry under one side and pop out the little plastic plugs in the bed (be sure to do before getting bed liner sprayed if doing that)they will pop out. If you let them spray over them they will be really hard to get out in not impossible.

 

The black plastic part, (holds the toggle that the bolt goes thru). You put the toggle in the open end of the black plastic part (it clicks in), then you slide the black plastic part in the slot on the back of the rail. slide the bolt thru the rail into the toggle and tighten enough to get the bolt thru it. Install all three on each rail. (Make sure you look on the back of the 2 side rails to find the "FWD" with arrow pointing to which way is FWD and install the side rail accordingly) 1. Install the across bed/cab back rail first by squeezing the toggle and installing it thru the hole in the bed (do all three before tightening). Then tighten them. (As you tighten it will get tight then it will feel like it is stripped, just keep tightening as the toggle has come out of where it was clipped in the black plastic part and is moving/sliding to allow it to tighten). If you have to remove a rail you loosen the bolt and the toggle will slide back in the black plastic part untill it clips back in to the end of it allowing you to unscrew the bolt out and remove the bolt. Then you slide the rail off the black plastic part and it's holding the toggle to keep it from falling down into the body. You then can collapse/compress one side of the toggle to extract it from the bed side.

 

Hope this explains it good enough for you. When you install the side rails look at the one closest to the cab that is in the stake pocket on each side and you can see how it works. Install the cab/across bed rail first. Just take your time it's really pretty easy and I didn't have any instructions. I just sat down and started putting parts together until I figured it all out. Mine came to me completely apart along with all the tool boxes and the overhead ladder racks. Lots of loose parts.

Need anymore help PM me.

 

Jack

bambamthe1st Enthusiast

bambamthe1st

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Does any one know of the part number to those black L shape corner pieces my tabs broke they don't stay on anymore and the GM dealer has not gotten back to me yet its been about a month.

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