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Blown Engine, Losing Faith In Gm, Money Pit

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Lets Just say I took the plunge as a die hard dodge Fan, to buy a supposivly reliable Duramax.

I found a 2005 Duramax Crew cab LLY for 26,000$ Cnd with 144,000kms.

The truck has everything I would ever put into a truck, and looked great inside and out

 

First I got two local dealerships to do a used vehichle inspection and everything passed except some front end components being out of spec. (Still rode solid and wasnt all over the road)

Thee people commented that they knew the previous owner and had nothing but good things to say about how the guy took care of the truck. (Put my mind at ease)

 

So I buy the truck four months ago (Warrenty expired in nov 2009) and drive it once a week, average of accumulating 20,000 kms a year. First it was an injector #2. Replaced that and all other were within spec. Then the famous transfer case pump rub appeared (ok, at this point not mad, I guess its a common problem)

 

See my link to the thread with other pump rub issues.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/index.php?...48648&st=45

So I got that fixed and the whole front end re-done (Hoping this is it for the next ten years the way I drive it lol)

 

500 kms later the engines running rough again, pressure in the crank (alot) and smoking very bad blue. Take it to my mechanic and he says I ahve a dead hole, most likely a hole in my piston. Now the pyro for the EGTs was in the wrong place so it was reading lower than it should have. they say The guy drove the snot out of this truck so the other 7 pistons are probably waiting to fail as well. There is a PPE hot +2 programmer isntalled but the guy said he never had it pas level 2, weather thats true or false ill never know.

 

Long story short, the mechanic says It would be cheaper to install a crate motor than pull it and tear down to find more problems inside. The cost to me for a rebuilt crate motor is 12,000$ installed, and a used wrecker motor with 70,000kms for 9800$ installed, but the new one comes with a 3 year warrenty.

 

So 2000kms after I buy this dreaded thing, it jsut keeps snow baling and becoming a money pit. Could of bought brand new for the money I have into this thing. The dealership offers me 7000$ for a trade on a new one (slap in the face to lose 23,000$ on a dead truck)

 

This keepps bring me back to whats next? the turbo? the injectors? the differentials? Everythings new o the truck and the allison is rebuilt with a suncoast stage 3, whats the chances this piles up next?

 

Now with the chip installed and over warrenty, Im told theres no way GM will even look at footing any part of the bill. any reminence of a chip voids all aspects of warrenty, especially since its over time frame. I have looked and looked for blown duramaxs on the net and its slim to find, especially with less than 200,000kms.

 

Im so far into this truck I dont know what to do.

Fix it new, and hope for the best...again? or burn the sucker.

looking back since bought new on the service records, there has been no major engine or powertrain work done on this truck.

 

Thoughts and feedback is appreciated,

- Landon

 

Im not bashing GM but for taking a leap to switch over, Its hard to keep faith in this company.

66nova Senior Enthusiast

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From everything I have seen (my dad has a 2005) and read. That engine is great and reliable. I have not heard of issues like this, UNLESS you have already answered you question...The guy drove the snot out of it. He never had it past level 2...I have my doubts.

 

My guess is, that this boils down to a previous owner issue more than a GM issue.

 

Sorry about your luck man!

krazed1 Enthusiast

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Yea I think thats my conclusion.

But the guy who installed the pyro for the EGTs had it in the wrong spot.

 

So even on level 2 pulling a trailer (which it says its safe to do so) the gauge could of been reading 1000-1100, but in reality been 1300+. so the previous owner could of been destroying the motor and not even known. Tough to pin the blame down

 

Also my step dad had a 05 duramax from new and it ran 200,000+ no problems with an Edge chip in it.

Its not so much GMs fault just the costs that keep coming from this truck is outragous.

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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its the previous owner...the duramax is almost flawless minus the injector issue which should be under warranty still...when i got my truck i found out after buying it that the previous owner fryed all 4 brake and rotors from driving like a FIB, dodges are pieces of junk...i have all 3 brands in my family and by far the dodge is the worst, i think the damn thing sucks gas when the motors off...if there was no gm i'd ride a horse plain and simple screw the other brands

krazed1 Enthusiast

krazed1

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haha yea the cummins is bulletproof IMO, but everything else is junk.

Its a duramax LLY so it shouldnt have the injector problems, I think that was the Lb7 with the extended warranty and problems.

Thanks for the replies

Shaners Senior Enthusiast

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If the previous owner rebuilt/beefed up the Allison tranny with the Suncoast stage 3 kit that is because he wasn't babying the old girl... I think he ran her hard.

dewfpo Senior Enthusiast

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If the previous owner rebuilt/beefed up the Allison tranny with the Suncoast stage 3 kit that is because he wasn't babying the old girl... I think he ran her hard.

 

I must have missed it, where'd the OP say that?

 

DEWFPO

FargoZ71 Enthusiast

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My thoughts are following the rest. With the Suncoast and messed up placement of the pryo, a guy who is only saying that he tuned his chip to level 2 is full of ****, my guess is it rarely ever hit level 2, and a huge question that would of flaired up to me is why is my front end all worn to hell if he wasn't playn.

dewfpo Senior Enthusiast

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2/3rds of the 1st post...

 

Thanks, found it after rereading it again.

 

DEWFPO

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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yeah know if you have the old 6.5 detroit terd, the thing would have been dead soon as you turned the radio on...just replace whats broke, and carry on...we all have had repair bills and the majority is that the old owner drove it like it was stolen

cfeiring Enthusiast

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I would go with the crate motor from gm with the new warranty, take the tune out of the truck prior to repair so that the new engine gets the tune in the future after the warranty is gone.

 

While the engine is out check the tranny, the difs, change the fluids, drop the tranny pan, new tranny pan filter and fluid with careful inspection.

 

It will be costly, but not as much as 23,000 dollars. And if nothing is found wrong, then you can probably have a solid truck for the rest of its service life for you.

 

Get all the various fluids changed out for new, as well, therefore you can start out with a new platform with a known history baseline that would not be altered by old fluids.

 

I hope all works out for ya.

 

This will still be cheaper than a new truck, with most of the benefits of new truck when you compare the mechanicals.

Zembonez Senior Enthusiast

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Damn Landon... that sucks. Not a good jump into the GM pool for you.

 

I'm with the others... I believe the previous owner is the culprit here much more than GM. Buying a used truck is kind of like getting a new girlfriend, you never know how hard they have been ridden before you met up and some of them clean up pretty well...

 

Good luck with it.

shocktrp Enthusiast

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This is why I don't have a diesel;

 

- Cannot justify the added expense on a new one.

- Cannot trust that the last guy didn't run a programmer on level 5 & then unload it right before it failed.

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