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revrnd Senior Enthusiast

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Last week my brother got stopped by the Canadian Revenue Agency for a fuel check. He was OK. Apparently his son (my 13 year old nephew) said that he should pull the Duramax badges off so they wouldn't know he had a diesel ('05 Chev 3/4 ton CC SB).

 

My question is this: Are highway (low sulphur) diesel & off road (dyed) diesel of the same formulation? I was just curious that if the off road diesel was a lower grade that folks running it in their trucks might be saving a bit of cash now, but might be causing problems down the road.

ChevyTech77 Senior Enthusiast

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Last week my brother got stopped by the Canadian Revenue Agency for a fuel check. He was OK. Apparently his son (my 13 year old nephew) said that he should pull the Duramax badges off so they wouldn't know he had a diesel ('05 Chev 3/4 ton CC SB).

 

My question is this: Are highway (low sulphur) diesel & off road (dyed) diesel of the same formulation? I was just curious that if the off road diesel was a lower grade that folks running it in their trucks might be saving a bit of cash now, but might be causing problems down the road.

You have two readily available diesel fuel formulations (not including bio-diesel)

Off road (high sulfur)

On road (ultra low sulfur)

 

As far as I am aware, the only fuel available at filling stations in the U.S. is Ultra Low Sulfur. They can

be tested with an API test (specific gravity) and I'm sure the fine is quite stiff for running anything but

Ultra Low Sulfur in on road applications in the U.S. Not sure what the ruling is for sure but with Low Sulfur

being no longer available at filling stations, I could see where they might bust you for it.

 

And yes, off road fuel will damage any of the newer light duty pickup diesel engines. Especially any of those

equipped with a DPF.

pwall Senior Enthusiast

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Was it a farm vehicle ? Just wondering if they were looking to see if coloured diesel was being used for personal use???

Coloured diesel, from my understanding, is the same fuel, just a dye added as coloured diesel is subsidized for farmers.

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Was it a farm vehicle ? Just wondering if they were looking to see if coloured diesel was being used for personal use???

Coloured diesel, from my understanding, is the same fuel, just a dye added as coloured diesel is subsidized for farmers.

 

 

Nope, that is also high sulfur off road use only, if it has dye in it. That or its kerosene.

revrnd Senior Enthusiast

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Was it a farm vehicle ? Just wondering if they were looking to see if coloured diesel was being used for personal use???

 

No his truck is plated for personal use, but he was stopped in a rural area on his way home from work. Yes, they were checking for dyed fuel. It was the 1st time he's been checked for dyed fuel (he's had the truck since it was new) nor anyone else that I know for that matter either.

 

Any Canucks on here been checked by the CRA in the past for fuel?

revrnd Senior Enthusiast

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Nope, that is also high sulfur off road use only, if it has dye in it. That or its kerosene.

 

I wonder what fuel modern heavy equipment w/ the latest emissions use? I know some of the older logging equipment around here could probably use kerosene.

pwall Senior Enthusiast

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I've only had my diesel for two years, and in that time, I have never been checked.

jro909 Senior Enthusiast

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the fine for useing offroad diesel in a none offroad vehicle(tractor,skid loader) is very very high as high sulfur diesel is alot more hazardous for the enviroment...offroad has dye in it and will stain your entire fuel system..its cheaper so people try to get away with useing it, i've met farmers running it and its bad news to get caught

txab Senior Enthusiast

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There is also little to no tax paid on farm use diesel. That's one of the reasons for the check. The color gives it away. Govt. want's the money due them.

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most off road diesel sold in my area is ulsd just like the on road fuel the only difference is the red dye and no road tax. if you actually own a farm the easiest way around it is have your farm tanks filled with on road fuel and then write the entire quantity off as off road use and use that credit to go towards your taxes. then you don't have to be worried about getting busted for red dyed fuel.

revrnd Senior Enthusiast

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There is also little to no tax paid on farm use diesel. That's one of the reasons for the check. The color gives it away. Govt. want's the money due them.

 

I think that's the main reason for the fuel checks. Checking for dyed fuel in on road vehicles has been going on long before people were worried about the environment.

 

The unpaid tax is why the CRA rather than the MOE is concerned w/ it.

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