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oldmann Senior Enthusiast

oldmann

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Seems like navigation in a car or truck is outdated now. I use my Droid for nav all the time. Does anyone actually use it?

old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

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only use it when I need it.. not a daily thing..

 

I work with a lady that has a 535i and she programs her GPS to get to work and get home every day.. any place she goes, she puts in the address.. I don't understand it, and find it rather amusing that she can't get in the car and drive without spending 2-3 minutes programming her GPS first..

 

Frankly I don't even recall the last time I used mine, on the phone or in the truck.. for me it's there when I go out of the area, but I know most of Socal very well, from Lancaster to San Diego, all the major streets and highways. I don't need a GPS for daily driving..

 

Now when we go camping and off-roading, yeah I glance at it every so often, but I have a good sense of direction and don't find a need for it very often.. But then I was taught how to use a Thomas Guide when I first started driving, and I had a delivery job the summer after high school before Basic Training, and it took me all over L.A., Ventura, Orange County and Sand Diego so I had to learn, or risk getting lost and losing money.. I got paid per delivery..

uchi Enthusiast

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i use nav if im going out of town or going to a place i cant find, suburban jungle or otherwise some place i dont wanna look for. other than that im pretty good with directions. i tried the on star nav today, its ok, its not nearly as nice as using a display nav setup but as long as you pay attention and look at the read out on the radio its useful but i wouldnt rely on it much if youre directionally challenged

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I use my nav everyday. I just moved and not familiar with the roads yet. I have the original nav disk from 2007. I bet you need the new GMC nav disk to update everything. Ebay has them cheaper than the $100 dealer price. Easy to load also.

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old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

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Ive got a droid and iphone for work, never ever use the in dash nav. Such a waste of space for that horrible nav system in my 08 tahoe hybrid. i hope they have gotten better. Mine doesnt even tell you smaller street names even if you zoom in as far as it will go. Sadly, its a whole lot easier and safer to drive with 1 hand and the other holding the droid. cant believe gm screwed up something so easy, all they had to do was copy maps.google.com and be done. im wondering what the hell I can convert that 7" screen to do.

 

 

lol not quite as easy to just copy maps. . there is a shit load of copyrights required for the programming, mapping, routing, etc. Then making the programming and software work together within the unit and in conjunction with all the other features (onstar, ipod, rear dvd, etc)

 

"all they had to do was copy" lol, best laugh I've had in awhile....

 

if it was that easy they every GPS manufacturer would be using the same "copy" of the maps.

Cool Zr2 Enthusiast

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I don't plan on using the NAV unless I got out of town to a big city and need to find a hotel or something, We go to Winnipeg alot and that town is not very organized, streets change names without notice, its very weird. I got solely for the backup camera, if GM didn't offer the backup camera in the NAV screen I wouldn't have upgraded to NAV.

old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

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I don't plan on using the NAV unless I got out of town to a big city and need to find a hotel or something, We go to Winnipeg alot and that town is not very organized, streets change names without notice, its very weird. I got solely for the backup camera, if GM didn't offer the backup camera in the NAV screen I wouldn't have upgraded to NAV.

 

 

I thought you could get the backup camera in the rear view mirror without nav?

Cool Zr2 Enthusiast

Cool Zr2

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I don't plan on using the NAV unless I got out of town to a big city and need to find a hotel or something, We go to Winnipeg alot and that town is not very organized, streets change names without notice, its very weird. I got solely for the backup camera, if GM didn't offer the backup camera in the NAV screen I wouldn't have upgraded to NAV.

 

 

I thought you could get the backup camera in the rear view mirror without nav?

 

 

You can, I just wanted it in the NAV screen so I had to upgrade to NAV.

old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

old-chevy-dude

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Well, not "copy" google maps verbatim, but hell they could of at least bench marked it, maybe done a few user studies, compare our product to the industry standard type thing.

 

Point being, they certainly could of done a much better job. I hope the NAV system has improved since 2008, like I said mine wont even tell me smaller street names even when zoomed in all the way. Really frustrating when using the map but not with a destination typed in.

 

It almost seems to me that in 2008 at least they purposely "dumbed down" the NAV system in an effort to push Onstar subscriptions. For instance, I cant make hands free calls from my cell phone, instead I need to use onstar and buy their minutes. The NAV system is so cumbersome I cant really use it, but Onstar provides turn by turn voice activated directions (for a fee). Now go ride in a $50K BMW, or Lexus, or Toyota. They have their shit together, their NAV systems and entire ICE system run circles around GM's. I dont think this was anything other than an intentional tactic to sell Onstar subscriptions, and its a piss poor tactic in a $50k vehicle.

 

 

well we have a Toyota Camry with nav, and it's nav sucks as much as the GM, and my Chrysler before it sucked as much too. (BTW Toyota and GM use the same map and routing source/company, so the maps and the way it routes are the same programming and logic).

 

From what I have seen overall, all OEM Navigation systems are horrible. Now I understand that Chrysler has adopted the Garmin Programming and Mapping from their 2011 forward models, but as I haven't seen it I have no comment on it.

 

 

Alpine uses the same programming and mapping as MBZ and BMW (Navteq is the name of the company) and Navteq is C R A P with a capital C.

 

I've done a lot of reverse engineering on Denso and Navteq programming and from my experience they are all crap..

 

 

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but the one thing that I do like about the 2010 forward GM system is that it is now linked via the onstar Android/iPhone app. On my Android it uses google maps and I can speak a destination it finds it via google maps on the phone and then downloads it to the vehicle. Makes for address entry while moving very easy.

 

 

but yes I 100% agree that GM has always been behind the ball because they want you to pay for and use OnStar instead of using the free in car system..

 

Hell look at the Camaro a $40K super car contender with no NAV option, only OnStar Turn by Turn for a charge.. Yet their competition the Challenger and Mustang have it standard on the top end models.

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