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old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

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can you plug something into your OBDII port? about as hard as say plugging something into a USB port on a computer.

 

Didn't know it was that simple. Thank you. Definitely will do this, and besides the ultra guage looks pretty interestsing and is on sale now for less than $50. As far as the tin foil hat business is concerned, this is what Wired Magazine said about OnStar's brilliant idea:

"Collecting location and speed data via GPS might also create a treasure trove of data that could be used in criminal and civil cases. One could also imagine an eager police chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets en masse."

 

Not very cool in my opinion. I shouldn't have to sign on to this just because I bought a GM truck. Makes me wonder if buying a product from a company owned by the government is a good idea in any case.

 

 

 

bah,. OnStar has been around for nearly 15 years, has nothing to do with the "Gov't" and "Big Brother" conspiracy..

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bah,. OnStar has been around for nearly 15 years, has nothing to do with the "Gov't" and "Big Brother" conspiracy..

 

Agree that it hasn't been anything like that <i>before</i>now, but times are changing. Google and Apple both did some data mining, but once exposed, they had to backtrack, and I am hoping that OnStar does the same. I do like OnStar but I don't like the possibility that OnStar would be providing information to law enforcement and government bureaucrats without my consent.

 

Here is a link to the new OnStar (lack of) Privacy Statement.

 

http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/webdav/po...nt-2011-USE.pdf

old-chevy-dude Senior Enthusiast

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bah,. OnStar has been around for nearly 15 years, has nothing to do with the "Gov't" and "Big Brother" conspiracy..

 

Agree that it hasn't been anything like that <i>before</i>now, but times are changing. Google and Apple both did some data mining, but once exposed, they had to backtrack, and I am hoping that OnStar does the same. I do like OnStar but I don't like the possibility that OnStar would be providing information to law enforcement and government bureaucrats without my consent.

 

Here is a link to the new OnStar (lack of) Privacy Statement.

 

http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/webdav/po...nt-2011-USE.pdf

 

 

 

seen it, am an OnStar subscriber, doesn't bother me. They are welcome to collect whatever data they want. I don't break laws and have no concern about them using the data for anything other than assisting me. Be it in an accident or the recovery of my vehicle.

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The idea that you could get a speeding ticket from onstar is insane and anyone who makes that statement has no idea of how the law works. The concept is valid but it would be only ever happen with government supplied equipment that was exhaustively researched and tested on a regular basis. Speed cameras will be around for many more years before that happens.

 

If you really want it disabled call onstar and tell them that you do not consent to them collecting your personal data and you want them to arrange with your local dealer to have the system disabled.

truckofwinandawesome Senior Enthusiast

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bah,. OnStar has been around for nearly 15 years, has nothing to do with the "Gov't" and "Big Brother" conspiracy..

 

Agree that it hasn't been anything like that <i>before</i>now, but times are changing. Google and Apple both did some data mining, but once exposed, they had to backtrack, and I am hoping that OnStar does the same. I do like OnStar but I don't like the possibility that OnStar would be providing information to law enforcement and government bureaucrats without my consent.

 

Here is a link to the new OnStar (lack of) Privacy Statement.

 

http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/webdav/po...nt-2011-USE.pdf

 

 

 

seen it, am an OnStar subscriber, doesn't bother me. They are welcome to collect whatever data they want. I don't break laws and have no concern about them using the data for anything other than assisting me. Be it in an accident or the recovery of my vehicle.

 

 

that's the way i see things with the Win and Awesome.

dewfpo Senior Enthusiast

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this is what Wired Magazine said about OnStar's brilliant idea:

" One could also imagine an eager police chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets en masse."

 

How could an informed, intelligent, sane person not laugh at such verbal diarrhea?

 

Barney Fife and Onstar are in cohoots to get us. Run for your life!

 

DEWFPO

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How could an informed, intelligent, sane person not laugh at such verbal diarrhea?

 

Barney Fife and Onstar are in cohoots to get us. Run for your life!

 

DEWFPO

 

Not sure about issuance of tickets, but I bet you wouldn't be laughing when OnStar complies with a subpena by providing accident information about you and your vehicle to a personal injury auto accident attorney suing you

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I am honestly starting to think you are insane or a terrible driver or both...You are seemingly paranoid about crashing your truck into someone and being sued, maybe it is best if you just sell the truck and buy a bus pass

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How could an informed, intelligent, sane person not laugh at such verbal diarrhea?

 

Barney Fife and Onstar are in cohoots to get us. Run for your life!

 

DEWFPO

 

Not sure about issuance of tickets, but I bet you wouldn't be laughing when OnStar complies with a subpena by providing accident information about you and your vehicle to a personal injury auto accident attorney suing you

 

 

Don't do stupid crap that can have any ill effects if something should happen. If I am driving like a complete a-hole or vice versa and cause an accident and kill someone then I or them deserve what they get. And how is OnStar providing information about an accident any different than all the eyewitnesses who would tell the police what happened. Either way a lawyer could find out what happened. Not attacking you, I'm just saying.

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I am honestly starting to think you are insane or a terrible driver or both...You are seemingly paranoid about crashing your truck into someone and being sued, maybe it is best if you just sell the truck and buy a bus pass

 

Maybe you wouldn't object to having OnStar release your MPH information to your insurance company.

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I am honestly starting to think you are insane or a terrible driver or both...You are seemingly paranoid about crashing your truck into someone and being sued, maybe it is best if you just sell the truck and buy a bus pass

 

Maybe you wouldn't object to having OnStar release your MPH information to your insurance company.

 

 

No I wouldn't, because I drive a pick up truck on a public road, add in the cost of fuel these days and what a speeding ticket does to you're insurance bill I don't speed.

desrtrat Senior Enthusiast

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weather you like On Star or not, i don't have it, or ever will. i'm the type who likes his privacy..everything i have, drivers license, vehicle registration, everything goes thru a PO.box. if i want someone to know where i live i tell them, if not it's none of their business. and no..i'm not paranoid :flag: but them selling to third party's i bet the finance CO. are going to love this. miss a payment or two, they already have your home address on the loan paper work, On Star sells them your GPS records, and it shows where you travel every morning to work/school what ever, so you get to work and the nice guys from the repo CO. are sitting there with their tow truck and morning coffee waiting for you....paranoid ? :P

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No I wouldn't, because I drive a pick up truck on a public road, add in the cost of fuel these days and what a speeding ticket does to you're insurance bill I don't speed.

 

I know from personal experience that you are absolutely correct on the effect of speeding tickets on insurance premiums.

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