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btw i dont know much about bikes and quads just wondering how you would take that much weight off. Smaller tires maybe? 50-60 pounds is alot of weight to shave off in my opinion when they try to make those machines light as it is .

 

 

You can drop 30 lbs with just changing wheels and tires, front end (control arms) changed to Aluminum J arms. lighter weight aluminum bodied shocks, and swing arm. Chrome moly axle. removed all unnneeded wiring i.e. ignition switch. light weight aluminum bars, light weight clutch, and brake levers. lightweight aluminum radiator. It all adds up really quick

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Morgan1986 Senior Enthusiast

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btw i dont know much about bikes and quads just wondering how you would take that much weight off. Smaller tires maybe? 50-60 pounds is alot of weight to shave off in my opinion when they try to make those machines light as it is .

 

 

You can drop 30 lbs with just changing wheels and tires, front end (control arms) changed to Aluminum J arms. lighter weight aluminum bodied shocks, and swing arm. Chrome moly axle. removed all unnneeded wiring i.e. ignition switch. light weight aluminum bars, light weight clutch, and brake levers. lightweight aluminum radiator. It all adds up really quick

 

I thought they already did most of that stuff with racing bikes and quads but since I dont own one I would not know. Thank you for the explanation. I was just comparing it to the pedal bike I have and a top money bike is really really light for cross country mountain biking and it has basically already most of the lightest/strong parts are in top pedal bikes and I was assuming it was the same with racing quads and bikes. Most likely since quads and dirt bikes cost so much as it is they dont put the best materials already in it for more customers can afford one ?
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btw i dont know much about bikes and quads just wondering how you would take that much weight off. Smaller tires maybe? 50-60 pounds is alot of weight to shave off in my opinion when they try to make those machines light as it is .

 

 

You can drop 30 lbs with just changing wheels and tires, front end (control arms) changed to Aluminum J arms. lighter weight aluminum bodied shocks, and swing arm. Chrome moly axle. removed all unnneeded wiring i.e. ignition switch. light weight aluminum bars, light weight clutch, and brake levers. lightweight aluminum radiator. It all adds up really quick

 

I thought they already did most of that stuff with racing bikes and quads but since I dont own one I would not know. Thank you for the explanation. I was just comparing it to the pedal bike I have and a top money bike is really really light for cross country mountain biking and it has basically already most of the lightest/strong parts are in top pedal bikes and I was assuming it was the same with racing quads and bikes. Most likely since quads and dirt bikes cost so much as it is they dont put the best materials already in it for more customers can afford one ?

 

 

They put nice stuff on them from the factory, but the Shee's still came with a steel wheel and heavy tire. The aftermarket just like for your pedal bike will still have better and lighter components available. The lightweight aluminum and Chrome Moly stuff is VERY expensive and would make a new quad out of most peoples price range

dirtfan21 Senior Enthusiast

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Read my post again there bud, I said if it is modded it is a completely different story. I guess you just read what you want to, haha, because I am agreeing with you. I continue to say stock to stock a bike will take it, not a fully modded banshee.

 

I won't waste my finger energy on this anymore. I know what a modded banshee will do at 50+ HP and they are mean, I also know what a stock 35-40 HP stocker will do and my KTM would eat them up everyday. I'll take your anger with a grain of salt toward me considering I would put my money on your banshee against a stock 250 two stroke.

 

I won't even start a conversation on a modded 450 bike, those things can put out some insane HP numbers with revs over 10,000 and will do 80+ in last gear. It is all relative to be honest, HP to weight ratio with drivetrain loss is what it boils down to. If a bike has 60 HP and weighs in the low 200's and a quad has 60 HP and weighs in the 300's which do you think will win? You can't argue that point.

 

 

It wasn't directed to you, it was directed to the unknowing. You know the ones above you who talk big shit and know nothing. I don't have any anger towards this. I know what I have, I know what it is capable of, I have been riding it a long time. I have never have a bike leave me in it's roost on the trail. I have been beat at the dunes, usually by Shee's with extended swing arms and heavier mods than I have.

 

 

I have ridden a couple stock Shee's and to me they are like riding my lawn tractor, and yes would get smoked by a stock 250 dirt squirt

 

 

:cheers: I also know the power of a modded out banshee. They handle pretty bad stock but if you throw aftermarket shocks, valved right, new wheels and tires, etc, they handle way better than I thought they would with being as long as they are. To be honest the craziest quad I ever rode was my buddy's modded quadzilla. That-thing-was-NUTS!

Prokopchuk_9 Senior Enthusiast

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Well by quad i meant like raptors and banshees, the ones that wish they were as fast as dirt bikes lol, now an atv or four wheeler as we call them is what i would like to hunt with also.

 

 

 

We will have to agree to disagree, I know I can beat any stock 250 with my Shee, you know your stocker will beat my slowheeler. I will never have the chance to show you so you win dude quit whinning

 

BRAAAAAAAP!!

 

 

maybe in a straight line, but in the twisties there is NO way you would ever keep up to me on the shee. i know for a fact. you'd be eating roost aaalllll day :cold:

god now im just itchin to go riding...come on snow melt!!!! :banghead:

 

 

Same thing my buddy on his YZ said, I'm not going to argue this over and over. You guy's are so right my Shee can't hold a candle to your dirt squirts. If you are ever in Michigan and want to show me how bad you are let me know

 

 

ahahah i was waitin for that. you sound like a racer at heart!! i dont consider myself a "moto-x" racer but i can hold my own man, anything with a motor i can ride and ride it fast. most of my buddies all growin up called me "hey-wire"...LOL ive owned a few bikes...i can givver pretty good. BUT we will see soon how lazy ive gotten riding a four stroke, hoppin back on the smoker is gonna give me some arm pump i bet. come up to thunder bay ontario, lots of nice ridin bud...and that shee you got sounds STUPID fast LOL...ive never seen one that modded up in action before. must be a fun rig...lets see some pics of it dude

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i have 1 more shift tomorrow, then im on a plane home. the weather has be abnormally warm at home and most of the snow is gone already!! i bet you guys can guess what ill be doin

 

BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP :thumbs:

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This is right before going on the trailer to head to Silver Lake Sand Dunes

 

(before J arms and new front bumper)

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