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Some experience and observations regarding oil/ filter change 2014 Sierra. Considering the factory oil was approaching 8 months I purchased 2-5 gallon jugs of Mobil 0-20 at Walmart for $51 and an oil filter from the dealer $9. The oil in the drain pan was milk chocolate in color with quite a bit of metal particles when stirred, so I'm glad I decided to change it. The factory filter had what appeared to be an anti-drain back valve while the new PF63 did not. Whole procedure was a piece of cake, no mess and took every bit of 8.5 qts.

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Is the plug magnetic on these new trucks? Haven't had a chance to change the oil on the fleet at work yet... For that matter I wonder if GM put a drain plug on the transmissions again. Same with the rear diff. I know changing the filter on a transmission gets quite messy when you can't drain the oil out first...

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beetle

Your post brings up a great point. I truly believe that the first oil change on a new vehicle is critical. Those metal particles you found in the oil is proof. Waiting for the OLM or going beyond that first 2-3K miles is asking for trouble. Congrats on your new vehicle.

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Is the plug magnetic on these new trucks? Haven't had a chance to change the oil on the fleet at work yet... For that matter I wonder if GM put a drain plug on the transmissions again. Same with the rear diff. I know changing the filter on a transmission gets quite messy when you can't drain the oil out first...

The drain plug is not magnetic.

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800 miles in 8 months? No wonder the oil looked like "milk chocolate", you are not getting it up to temp long enough for the moisture to burn off.

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800 miles in 8 months? No wonder the oil looked like "milk chocolate", you are not getting it up to temp long enough for them moisture to burn off.

Actually, the truck sat on dealers lot for 7 months, I just bought it 3 weeks ago.

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There is no reason to be paranoid about pre-mature oil changes in this day and age.

 

All your seeing in the oil is metallic particles, not chunks of connecting rod. An actual molecule of oil is larger then any metal particle that makes it past the filter. Those tiny tiny pieces of metal are actually trapped inside oil, so they do no damage to the bottom end. You could go at least a few thousands miles before changing and not worry about anything. The oil filter will catch anything large enough to do damage, and if for whatever reason you have heavy particles, they will sink to the bottom of the sump.

 

What did your dealership tell you about changing your own oil? Mine tried to tell me I would void my warranty. I simply said, well what if I work in a camp job, or in the bush? I have no access to shops, I am on my own, I can do it myself with supplies I keep on hand. He "went and checked" and came back to me and said you can change your own oil without voiding warranty.

 

Everyone knows that IF you have an engine failure, how the internal parts look will tell whether or not it has been looked after, not receipts from Mr.Lube.

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There is no reason to be paranoid about pre-mature oil changes in this day and age.

 

All your seeing in the oil is metallic particles, not chunks of connecting rod. An actual molecule of oil is larger then any metal particle that makes it past the filter. Those tiny tiny pieces of metal are actually trapped inside oil, so they do no damage to the bottom end. You could go at least a few thousands miles before changing and not worry about anything. The oil filter will catch anything large enough to do damage, and if for whatever reason you have heavy particles, they will sink to the bottom of the sump.

 

What did your dealership tell you about changing your own oil? Mine tried to tell me I would void my warranty. I simply said, well what if I work in a camp job, or in the bush? I have no access to shops, I am on my own, I can do it myself with supplies I keep on hand. He "went and checked" and came back to me and said you can change your own oil without voiding warranty.

 

Everyone knows that IF you have an engine failure, how the internal parts look will tell whether or not it has been looked after, not receipts from Mr.Lube.

I don't think anyone is being paranoid about pre-mature oil changes. Spending $60 on a $40,000+ truck is playing it safe.

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If a dealership told me changing my own oil would void the warranty I would walk out immediately and go elsewhere.

 

 

Ryan

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Actually, the truck sat on dealers lot for 7 months, I just bought it 3 weeks ago.

 

Well that makes sense then.

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If a dealership told me changing my own oil would void the warranty I would walk out immediately and go elsewhere.

 

 

Ryan

To be fair here, when I got my 2013 Silverado, the dealer had one of those "warranty forever" things that they had for every new vehicle they sold. Basically, as long as you own the vehicle, the entire drive train is covered. The only catch... you had to get everything done at your dealer, and you were not allowed to do anything more than attaching your license plates it seemed, or else you voided the "warranty forever". It was clearly skewed so that the dealer would make a lot of service revenue over the life of the vehicle. Not necessarily a terrible thing, if one never does anything to their stock vehicle.

 

Oh. I voided the "warranty forever" within the first 1000 miles. I told the dealer I would when I bought the vehicle. Service intervals, servicing dealer, and a laundry list of other issues made the warranty forever thing not workable for me. I will decide when things are done, I will decide who will do them.

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