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Not looking for advice on them, there are a thousand threads on that already...  I have good results on my 2018, based on the amount of oil trapped in it, and the fact that the return line from the can to the manifold that is under vacuum, is pretty much bone dry. 

 

Mine has a very fine steel wool "filter" inside the can, filtering the line coming in from the PCV which forces the atomized oil in the hot air to condense and form droplet and drain into the bottom of the can, rather than just get sucked into the can and right back into the motor where I don't want it.  Used this way, it appears that like 98% of the oil is trapped and doesn't make its way into the manifold.  For $40, that's good enough for me.

That said, looking under the hood, this motor and setup on the 2019 LT Trail Boss appears quite a bit different than the 2018... Intake is on the other side and things are moved around and the front end seems more compact and cramped...

So where is that line?  Is it still under the throttle body?  It's hard to see down in there on this model...  Wondering where it is, what size hose I need to get and how much, etc...

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So I found this video.


Interesting, it seems that the new 5.3L doesn't use that line underneath the throttle body...  The motors up to 2018 had 3 vent lines essentially... Two at the valve covers, and one under the throttle body...  That throttle body one is the one that went to a catch can when you installed one.

Now it seems that the passenger side valve cover dumps to the intake tube, and the one on the driver side connects to the manifold...

I am guessing that the one going to the intake tube isn't too bad because the vacuum drawn is minimal, and the one going directly to the manifold via the vacuum line is the one getting the most oil?

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I've been researching different catch can options for my 2019 5.3.  On the 19's the pass side valve cover hose is a fresh/clean air source "into" the engine through the valve cover.  It's pulling a small amount of air from the airbox. (Filtered Air Before The Throttle Blade)  It has to be able to pull clean air into the engine.  All the suction and vacuum is on the drivers side through the PCV valve. 

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I'm considering trying the ADD-W1 V series. 

 

Looks like it has a "dip stick" and a drain option other than that looks well made and simple while not too expensive.

 

There are no 2019 pictures, so I'm not sure where it mounts?

 

The JLT can looks good too.

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Mine should be here some time today, and I will see where I can mount it.  Last time I just took a black "L" bracket from Home Depot and used that as a mounting bracket.  I will take pics of the install and post them up when I am done.

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Install was easy.  Mounted it right up with an L bracket from Home Depot and a lock-nut to that mounting screw for the washer fluid reservoir...

Connected the two hoses, done.

I did make sure to unscrew the internal filter that the "in" line with the oily mist flows through, and filled it with steel wool... this "filter" forces the hot oily air to breath through that, and very effectively separates out the oil before the vacuum line draws that air into the manifold.  Those droplets form inside that inner filter, and then drip into the bottom of the can...  

Here it all is, installed.

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1 hour ago, Londart2020 said:

Looks like quite the pain to empty when the time comes...

You do have to contort your wrist a bit to unscrew it...  lol

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I mean, it gets cold at night here.  I have had the same one on my 2018 Z71 for a year now.  No issues.  Collects a decent amount of oil, several ounces ever 1000 miles, and it doesn't seem to be letting much if any into the return line that goes to the manifold...

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Blanco getting a catch can. After 2000 miles pulling 1/3 cup of oil/water mix.

i have around 12k miles on it and pulled alot of crap. Intake after throttle body is OIL FREE (paper towel test).

 

 

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On 12/24/2019 at 7:01 PM, Bobv07662 said:

Call me back after you evaluate it's operation in a low temperature environment!

I had one in my 2015 up till I traded it in and worked great in the cold winters here.

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Was at the dealer for one of the recalls and my first oil change yesterday... They are cool with catch cans...  They say that as long as the person drains it and maintains it and it's installed properly, they see them a lot and don't have issues with people using them...  I also discussed the DFM concerns that I have, and he said that if Range puts out a box to disable it, to get one.  He said less headaches for me and them if we disable AFM/DFM and keep the valves free from crud with a Range box, etc...

He pointed out that to deny a warranty claim, there would have to be something faulty with the catch can that clearly CAUSED the problem...  Which I knew to be the law, but it was cool to see the service manager bring that up...  They know that AFM/DFM and GDI has longevity issues, and so taking steps to avoid those issues are in both party's best interests...

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On 12/26/2019 at 8:26 PM, BlancoSilverado said:

Blanco getting a catch can. After 2000 miles pulling 1/3 cup of oil/water mix.

i have around 12k miles on it and pulled alot of crap. Intake after throttle body is OIL FREE (paper towel test).

 

 

Thanks for the video.

 

I placed an order with RXP mid November and Im hoping to have it soon.

 

Where did you put your drains?

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2 minutes ago, RaisedByWolves said:

Thanks for the video.

 

I placed an order with RXP mid November and Im hoping to have it soon.

 

Where did you put your drains?

I put the drain leading to the front of the passenger tire. works great.

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