Coronavirus

[Grumpy Bear]

4 hours ago, The Zip said:

They have been talking locally about the numbers count in Ca for a few days now, the count has been frozen until they can get it right.

 

As for the checkpoints in NYC, we mentioned this a number of pages back.  If this checkpoint is on a road or major highway, this will be very manpower intensive if a 24/7 operation.  If not 24/7, why do it?

They seem serious despite this forums insistence other. 

Reasoning in bold read below in quoted story

NBC News

NYC sets up quarantine checkpoints as it toughens state travel restrictions

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced the city is setting up quarantine checkpoints at “key entry points” along main bridges and tunnels to the city to screen travelers coming from more than 30 states with bad coronavirus outbreaks. The checkpoints, in an effort to ramp up enforcement of the state’s travel advisory, will begin Wednesday.

 

“Travelers coming in from those states will be given information about the quarantine, they will be reminded that it is required, not optional,” de Blasio said at a press briefing. “They’ll be reminded that failure to quarantine is a violation of state law and it comes with serious penalties.” 

 

Dr. Ted Long, head of New York City’s Test and Trace Corps, said that a fifth of all new coronavirus cases in New York City are from travelers. Travelers will be subject to calls, texts and visits while in quarantine, he said. Long said the city will help those quarantining with free food deliveries, help with medications, telehealth services or “even a hotel stay.” — Noah Higgins-Dunn

[The Zip]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

They seem serious despite this forums insistence other. 

That's roughly 33 "city employees" north and southbound, three shifts, 24/7, one bridge.  If any city can do it, why not NY.  That state took the virus serious in the beginning and is still looking at it the same way.

 

Someone mentioned earlier about crime in the city.  Although this will be manpower intensive, I don't think there will be a change in criminal response.  These are not terrorist or criminal checkpoints. A traffic cop should be available if needed, but if they do it right, any designated  city employee can conduct state verification checks.  DMV employees comes to mind.

[Thejet07]

There are soo many access points to get into the five boros it’s insane. Even if we are talking about manhattan itself there are small bridges up and down the river. There’s the major bridges and tunnels as well. They are all traffic ridden. If you do this it will be complete grid lock. For example, it took me an hour to go from the Bronx to 72ND street and the east side of manhattan yesterday. That’s just a few miles. Like I said before, you look left or right and all you see are out of state plates. No way. Another disaster. Just par for the course the way this city and state has been run.

 

 

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[KARNUT]

Seems to me if New York or any where for that matter had hand sanitizer available and mask requirements this would be pretty much mute. Probably New York should think about keeping their police force around to hand out tickets for non mask compliance. Since they don’t need them for anything else. According to their mayor. For a city that’s doing everything right, according to some. That should be a no brainer. I’ve been around to a few of my usual stumping grounds of late. With the requirements post covid it’ll be pretty hard to get the bug where I’ve been . With the few places open in New York it should be a piece of cake. But of course complaining and pointing fingers is easier.


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[Grumpy Bear]

New toys on Johns Hopkins. Daily deaths retroactive by state, by country. California, Texas, Louisiana and Florida stand out like a sort thumb. Florida is off the hook up 400%? US and World deaths increasing proportional to new cases. Brazil is just at a steady clip of nearly 20% of the worlds daily deaths. USA is worse. 

 

How can that be if all these new USA cases are only a result of more test? (Rhetorical question people) 

 

 

[KARNUT]

People. Local and Texas state news reports daily there’s additional testing sites. More test more results, daaa really? The dashboards show trending down, I check twice a day. The US dashboard shows the same. Yes there’re upticks. Probably due to some mailing and other backlogs. Hospitals stays are down as well as deaths. The lack of attaboys keep up the good work is amazing. Maybe the goal is, there’s no use in trying. We’re all gonna die. Amazing. I see compliance daily locally and on trips. Maybe panic is the goal, baffling really.


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[Thejet07]

Soo many people in ny act like there’s nothing going on. Especially in the ghettos. It’s a free for all there.


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[The Zip]

Everything opposite of covid compliance we have been seeing across the country wrapped into one location, Sturgis.  Crowded bars and campsites, no masks, concerts, touching.  60% of the town residents didn't want the event to happen, city council disagreed.  Didn't matter if 100% of the town disagreed, a town that size is not going to stop that many bikes from rolling through.

 

Could be worse, read the crowd is projected down from 500,000 to 100,000.

[KARNUT]

Everything opposite of covid compliance we have been seeing across the country wrapped into one location, Sturgis.  Crowded bars and campsites, no masks, concerts, touching.  60% of the town residents didn't want the event to happen, city council disagreed.  Didn't matter if 100% of the town disagreed, a town that size is not going to stop that many bikes from rolling through.
 
Could be worse, read the crowd is projected down from 500,000 to 100,000.

Almost like a demonstration. Except they shop in the stores. And contribute to the economy. So if they pass the bug at least they add to the economy instead of destroying it.


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[Grumpy Bear]

3 hours ago, The Zip said:

Everything opposite of covid compliance we have been seeing across the country wrapped into one location, Sturgis.  Crowded bars and campsites, no masks, concerts, touching.  60% of the town residents didn't want the event to happen, city council disagreed.  Didn't matter if 100% of the town disagreed, a town that size is not going to stop that many bikes from rolling through.

 

Could be worse, read the crowd is projected down from 500,000 to 100,000.

I haven't been there since the late 70's. Very different crowd then. No rice allowed. My bike was on the cover of the Dead Wood news paper. I was a different guy then.  

[The Zip]

51 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I haven't been there since the late 70's. Very different crowd then. No rice allowed. My bike was on the cover of the Dead Wood news paper. I was a different guy then.  

I resemble that 70's crowd.  The only way you find that bike now is through American Pickers.  Regardless of how you cut it, a single covid non-compliance event throughout the country combined at one location can't end up well.

[Thejet07]

Kind of like the country wide protests?


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[Grumpy Bear]

45 minutes ago, The Zip said:

I resemble that 70's crowd.  The only way you find that bike now is through American Pickers.  Regardless of how you cut it, a single covid non-compliance event throughout the country combined at one location can't end up well.

I expect not. 

[KARNUT]

So you have all these people riding motorcycles together. You know what happens if one falls. I don’t think there’re too worried about getting a bug that the average death if they get it is 75. I can picture a brave reporter asking one about that.


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[KARNUT]

Just imagine we were able to wear mask that worked both ways in germ prevention. We got real diligent in hand sanitation and transfer prevention. Not only with this bug, all of them. I remember not too long ago there was a warning that we were using too much hand sanitizers. Our immunity was weakening. Our bodies are set up to fight bugs. Some don’t make it some do. The flu is an example. We may be making a big mistake. Sweden may have nailed it. We can’t drink the water in a lot of places. The locals can. Food for thought. For the people that don’t think this is political. Look around.


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