Oil change

[Grumpy Bear]

8 minutes ago, elcamino said:

Frequency of oil changes is the key to success in pushing related products and services for the OEM dealer. A few free oil changes can go a long way toward increasing the amount of money a customer will spend at the dealer during the ownership of the vehicle.   In other words, you are money in the bank.

 

 

Your up late Mike. I couldn't sleep either. 

 

It's also key in keeping machinery alive and well. That would be the owners motivation. The Dealer, is as you say, looking for regular paydays and 'additional work'. You come in for oil and leave with brakes or something other. 

[KARNUT]

For most people who don’t know anything about their vehicles the dealership is probably the best place to go for service. The quick lube places are only interested in oil changes. You’ll be getting OEM parts and usually a print out of what they check during oil changes. There’s also a manual for guidance and of course the internet that will give some idea when things wear out. Probably someone in their circle of friends has some knowledge for guidance. For me personally I’m at the stage in my life I limit myself to doing things I enjoy whenever possible. Three vehicles go to the dealer for service one I sometimes do. Probably the only thing I still do I don’t like so much is yard work. Most people don’t even do that. If people were really worried about over spending or being wasteful. There wouldn’t be Starbucks or people buying vehicles that needed shorter than the average service. To keep them on the road and call it progress. There’s something wonky about that. 

[Black02Silverado]

Also, free oil changes lead to new vehicle sales.  While getting oil changed, they roam the lot and then the next thing you know they buy a new vehicle.  Getting them in for the oil change is another way to get them in to look and see what is new on the lot.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Black02Silverado
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[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, Black02Silverado said:

Also, free oil changes lead to new vehicle sales.  While getting oil changed, they roam the lot and then the next thing you know the buy a new vehicle.  Getting them in for the oil change is another way to get them in to look and see what is new on the lot.

O- yea, no kidding. In 2015 I was getting the oil changed in my pickup. While waiting we walked across the lot to the Hyundai showroom there sat a black on gray Santa Fe with a 12K discount in the window. My wife says that should be our trip vehicle. She hated  climbing into the truck. I never saw my truck again. Happy wife.

[Transient]

The dealer is more than welcome to talk me out of my truck once the kids are grown and gone.  They better have a Corvette I can drive put in my driveway though. 

[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, Transient said:

The dealer is more than welcome to talk me out of my truck once the kids are grown and gone.  They better have a Corvette I can drive put in my driveway though. 

I don’t know why you’re sad. Id just retired and had two trucks the other one was a customized toy. The Santa Fe was a perfect trip vehicle. Better cruiser with  10 miles per gallon better. I did love that truck. With cylinder deactivation it was on a short leash the end of the warranty was approaching. Now my trip vehicle is a CRV. My truck is an avalanche. I’ll always have a truck, it just plays a different role. My personal vehicle.

Edited November 24, 2021 by KARNUT

[Z45]

To the original post on warranty concerns, this from the FTC;

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The Federal Trade Commission staff has sent warning letters to six major companies that market and sell automobiles, cellular devices, and video gaming systems in the United States.

The letters warn that FTC staff has concerns about the companies’ statements that consumers must use specified parts or service providers to keep their warranties intact. Unless warrantors provide the parts or services for free or receive a waiver from the FTC, such statements generally are prohibited by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a law that governs consumer product warranties. Similarly, such statements may be deceptive under the FTC Act. 

Each company used different language, but here are examples of questionable provisions:

• The use of [company name] parts is required to keep your . . . manufacturer’s warranties and any extended warranties intact.
• This warranty shall not apply if this product . . . is used with products not sold or licensed by [company name].
• This warranty does not apply if this product . . .  has had the warranty seal on the [product] altered, defaced, or removed.

“Provisions that tie warranty coverage to the use of particular products or services harm both consumers who pay more for them as well as the small businesses who offer competing products and services,” said Thomas B. Pahl, Acting Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. 

FTC staff has requested that each company review its promotional and warranty materials to ensure that such materials do not state or imply that warranty coverage is conditioned on the use of specific parts of services. In addition, FTC staff requests that each company revise its practices to comply with the law. The letters state that FTC staff will review the companies’ websites after 30 days and that failure to correct any potential violations may result in law enforcement action. 

The Federal Trade Commission works to promote competition, and protect and educate consumers. You can learn more about consumer topics and file a consumer complaint online or by calling 1-877-FTC-HELP (382-4357). Like the FTC on Facebook(link is external), follow us on Twitter(link is external), read our blogs and subscribe to press releases for the latest FTC news and resources.

 

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2018/04/ftc-staff-warns-companies-it-illegal-condition-warranty-coverage

 

 

[Transient]

On 11/24/2021 at 3:36 AM, KARNUT said:

I don’t know why you’re sad. Id just retired and had two trucks the other one was a customized toy. The Santa Fe was a perfect trip vehicle. Better cruiser with  10 miles per gallon better. I did love that truck. With cylinder deactivation it was on a short leash the end of the warranty was approaching. Now my trip vehicle is a CRV. My truck is an avalanche. I’ll always have a truck, it just plays a different role. My personal vehicle.

It's a personal thing regarding Hyundais.  I could get into it here, but it would derail this thread.  And, nobody needs to know about my childhood.  If you're happy with what you got that's what matters, and my opinion is irrelevant.  You just won't catch me in a Hyundai, even if they offer free candy.  Full size cargo vans driven by giant teddy bears is another matter though, lol.

[KARNUT]

34 minutes ago, Transient said:

It's a personal thing regarding Hyundais.  I could get into it here, but it would derail this thread.  And, nobody needs to know about my childhood.  If you're happy with what you got that's what matters, and my opinion is irrelevant.  You just won't catch me in a Hyundai, even if they offer free candy.  Full size cargo vans driven by giant teddy bears is another matter though, lol.

The wife wanted the first one. I knew I wouldn’t have to drive it. Then she got the Genesis. For grins I lined it up along side my brothers hemi challenger. We both were surprised. Then I got a Genesis coup. It was amazing. Later a Santa Fe. I’m a certified GM fan boy. I’ve owned at least one of every American lettered or numbered car. Even a javelin MD special. Even the ones with animal names. GM left me. Everyone has their taste. I have no problem with that.