torque management

[kylant]

hey all.

looking at another GM. I had a 2020 Sierra 3500 denali D/A.

looking to get another one (or chevy)

 

I see way more 2500s available than 3500s. I know the differences in them, but had questions about the 2500 torque management.

 

how significant is it? is it noticeable? those that have 2500s, do you wish you got a 3500 because of it?

 

thanks

[KARNUT]

7 hours ago, kylant said:

hey all.

looking at another GM. I had a 2020 Sierra 3500 denali D/A.

looking to get another one (or chevy)

 

I see way more 2500s available than 3500s. I know the differences in them, but had questions about the 2500 torque management.

 

how significant is it? is it noticeable? those that have 2500s, do you wish you got a 3500 because of it?

 

thanks

You may be asking the wrong question. TQ management along with traction control are on vehicles to keep novice drivers on the road. And to make the driveline handle the hp and TQ. I always added tuning to dial back TM. The difference between the two trucks you mentioned. Are their ability to handle loads and stability. Maybe you mean load management?

[newdude]

8 hours ago, kylant said:

hey all.

looking at another GM. I had a 2020 Sierra 3500 denali D/A.

looking to get another one (or chevy)

 

I see way more 2500s available than 3500s. I know the differences in them, but had questions about the 2500 torque management.

 

how significant is it? is it noticeable? those that have 2500s, do you wish you got a 3500 because of it?

 

thanks

 

 

 

Are you referring to the "all power in 1st gear" on the 1 tons? 

 

Both trucks obviously still have torque management.  I imagine that 1st gear tuning on the 1 tons is slightly different to get that full torque in 1st but otherwise the TM would be the same between both trucks.  

 

[kylant]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

You may be asking the wrong question. TQ management along with traction control are on vehicles to keep novice drivers on the road. And to make the driveline handle the hp and TQ. I always added tuning to dial back TM. The difference between the two trucks you mentioned. Are their ability to handle loads and stability. Maybe you mean load management?

no, i mean the reduced power in 1st and maybe 2nd gear on the 2500

[kylant]

6 minutes ago, newdude said:

 

 

 

Are you referring to the "all power in 1st gear" on the 1 tons? 

 

Both trucks obviously still have torque management.  I imagine that 1st gear tuning on the 1 tons is slightly different to get that full torque in 1st but otherwise the TM would be the same between both trucks.  

 

yes, just wondering how much the power is reduced in 1st and maybe 2nd gear

[CRApex]

2 minutes ago, kylant said:

yes, just wondering how much the power is reduced in 1st and maybe 2nd gear

I've had both, 1st was a 2020 2500 and now have the 3500.  If there is a difference, I don't notice it at all.

[pokismoki]

what trans is in the 2500 or 3500 your looking at?

they must have serious granny gear in first

[kylant]

diesel, so they have the same 10 speed 

rear diff has a bigger ring gear on the 3500. AFAIK that is the only drivetrain difference besides the torque management 

[pokismoki]

that 10 speed is also used in the FOrd units too i believe,  I wonder what tuning mods those guys have researched for thier trucks?

[MTU Alum]

2 hours ago, pokismoki said:

that 10 speed is also used in the FOrd units too i believe,  I wonder what tuning mods those guys have researched for thier trucks?

The 10 speeds are not the same. GM and Ford did not work together on the HD version.

 

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[pokismoki]

i have no experience with either,  

what are the similarities and the differences between the two?

[CRApex]

16 hours ago, pokismoki said:

i have no experience with either,  

what are the similarities and the differences between the two?

I believe the only similarity is they are both 10speeds.  Otherwise, completely different.

[pokismoki]

interesting, funny the BS that spreads around the interweb

[kylant]

guess it really doesn't matter at this point.

i bought another 3500

[MTU Alum]

There is torque limits in first and second gear on the diesel 2500s but it's pretty hard to tell the difference.

 

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