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I've been a Ford guy my whole life but a 2023 Silverado caught my eye and I can't stop looking at it. Threw the VIN in here for anyone curious vinnumber.net/makes/chevrolet/silverado/?vin=1GCUDJEL9PZ159474. Honest question, how's the 10-speed holding up in real world use? I tow a 24ft boat maybe ten times a year, is the cooling package on these adequate? And what's the deal with the lifter issues I keep reading about on the 5.3?

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10 hours ago, tioran said:

...how's the 10-speed holding up in real world use? I tow a 24ft boat maybe ten times a year...

The 10 speed is generally the same as whats found in a Ford - they were developed together. 

 

10 hours ago, tioran said:

is the cooling package on these adequate?

Yes.

 

10 hours ago, tioran said:

And what's the deal with the lifter issues I keep reading about on the 5.3?

Non issue.

 

If there was an internet concern I'd be looking at - it would be the main bearing failures. 

 

If applicable to this truck, does using a heavier oil, to alleviate potentially bad machining reassure you enough?

 

All noted problems are magnified WAAAAY out of proportion on the internet.

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I believe these DFM engines are less problematic than the AFM types, even though they have deac lifters in all locations. I believe bad TIMING of the deac event causes most collapsed lifters. The shorter oil path and faster computing has made the DFM types a little, at least, better.

 

Oh, and put real oil in em.

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18 hours ago, tioran said:

I've been a Ford guy my whole life but a 2023 Silverado caught my eye and I can't stop looking at it. Threw the VIN in here for anyone curious vinnumber.net/makes/chevrolet/silverado/?vin=1GCUDJEL9PZ159474. Honest question, how's the 10-speed holding up in real world use? I tow a 24ft boat maybe ten times a year, is the cooling package on these adequate? And what's the deal with the lifter issues I keep reading about on the 5.3?

 

 

Well...its a 6.2 for starters.

 

For somewhere over 64,000mi that it has, the good news is the engine only has like 2,000+mi on it.  Original engine passed the Picoscope test recall for it at 57,848mi and then it failed at 62,853mi.  So it has a brand new engine.  

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2 hours ago, newdude said:

 

 

Well...its a 6.2 for starters.

 

For somewhere over 64,00mi that it has, the good news is the engine only has like 2,000+mi on it.  Original engine passed the Picoscope test recall for it at 57,848mi and then it failed at 62,853mi.  So it has a brand new engine.  

 

GMVIS report?

 

I wonder how much the seller is disclosing about the truck's history. It's not like they give you that printout, you have to know a database exists and that if you ask someone nicely, they'll get the car's dealer-service/warranty history for you.

 

I wonder what, if anything, would show on a carfax.

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44 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

GMVIS report?

 

I wonder how much the seller is disclosing about the truck's history. It's not like they give you that printout, you have to know a database exists and that if you ask someone nicely, they'll get the car's dealer-service/warranty history for you.

 

I wonder what, if anything, would show on a carfax.

 

 

The weird part too is googling that VIN doesn't come up with any listings for sale.  99.9% of the time if you have a VIN for a car for sale it will hit on google to a dealership selling it.  Heck even if it was a salvage car at auction it would hit most of the time. 

 

Exceptions I can think of are private sale like Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, etc.  

 

But a legitimate dealer it would hit on the web for sale somewhere.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, newdude said:

Well...its a 6.2 for starters.

 

For somewhere over 64,00mi that it has, the good news is the engine only has like 2,000+mi on it.  Original engine passed the Picoscope test recall for it at 57,848mi and then it failed at 62,853mi.  So it has a brand new engine.  

The plot thickens.

 

I'm a die-hard GM guy, and I even have a 6.2, earlier than the 'bad' ones. 

 

I wouldn't buy a 6.2 from 2021 through end of production.

 

:troll:?

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On 5/12/2026 at 5:32 PM, newdude said:

 

 

The weird part too is googling that VIN doesn't come up with any listings for sale.  99.9% of the time if you have a VIN for a car for sale it will hit on google to a dealership selling it.  Heck even if it was a salvage car at auction it would hit most of the time. 

 

Exceptions I can think of are private sale like Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, etc.  

 

But a legitimate dealer it would hit on the web for sale somewhere.  

 

 

Could be his salesmen knew he was looking for a used truck? They got that in and called him to say it was available. I doubt the dealer would take the time to list it in their for sale database if it was a quick sale truck. 

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