03 silverado..stuck with receiver deck?

wngdweeler · August 20, 2004

hello all,

i purchased my silverado last may(03).

i recently went to have xm installed and was

told that the deck cannot be removed because

it also controls..1)air bags 2)dome lights 3)running lights

4)door chime.

the dealer was less than helpful(thanks for nothing...again, dick genthe)

now, i can still get xm but, i have to keep the stock deck(which sucks)

and, i'll have to have a xm deck stuck on my dash.

sorry for the rant but, what the hell is gm thinking?

the dealership told me that it is gm's way of cutting out the "aftermarket" guys.

uh, HELLO!! who's your customer here?!

i also was told that, "hey, next time you upgrade you can get xm stock".

uh, i shelled out 30 gr for THIS truck, i'm not concerned with my next purchase.

anyone have a better answer than GM?

THANKS,

August 20, 2004

I can't imagine what the deck would have to do with the airbags, dome light or running lights. The door chime, yes. My '03 Yukon had the Bose system and the door chime rings through the speakers. I replaced my head with a Sony and put in the door chime adapter. I'm good to go.

Nick99Chevy · August 20, 2004

You'll find what you need here:

http://www.pac-audio.com/products/oem1.htm

99-2door · August 20, 2004

If you get the adapter kit, you will be good to go.

ronterry · August 20, 2004

You can also go with an XM radio with an FM modulator. It basically interfaces between the radio antenna.

I've even seen some with wireless modulators, so they don't even have to be connected to the radio at all.

I have an FM modulator 10 cd disk changer on my Vette, and it sounds great.

Ron

lrymal · August 21, 2004

As mentioned, the radio just governs the door chimes, and warning chimes. There are lots of options and adapters available, depending on your budget. If the budget is "wealthy", you can buy the XM receiver and use your existing radio, just as if you had purchased the XM option with the truck:

http://www.jpcustoms.com/store/customer/pr...6593&cat=&page=

>> and, i'll have to have a xm deck stuck on my dash. <<

Man, that is some AWFUL information. At the beginning, there was a kit that would install a wiring junction so you could have your chimes. An aftermarket radio would go off on one side of the junction, and your original radio on the other side. All would be right with the world. Terrible design, but it worked. Finally, manufacturers came on board and started making some nice wiring adapters and the need for the OEM head unit was no longer done.

In my case, I purchased a Pioneer 6600 head unit, and a wiring harness adapter that has its own chime speaker. The chimes don't stay on FOREVER, either. They time out after only 15 seconds. Handy when you want to listen to the radio with the door open.

Anyway, dig around and search this board. There are a LOT of messages dealing with replacing the OEM head unit for '03 models and upwards.

And, as one of the messages mentioned, you can add XM to your existing radio via an RF modulated hookup that is part of the XM receiver. Nearly all the major radio manufacturers have models and, in the case of Pioneer, the RF Modulator is very powerful, very clean. Has hardly any audio frequency artifacting like most other modulators.

And, as another resource that can help you is http://www.xmfan.com/ Very easy to trace the evolution of XM in these late model vehicles of ours.

And tell your dealer to stuff it.... he is horribly misinformed. Shame on him for telling you this line of his.

cdn111 · August 21, 2004

Also GM came out last week with a kit that you can install factory XM in an 03-04 Pickup or SUV. IT's pretty pricey though, cost about $360 I think but for factory look and integration, I think it would be worth it.

bigdogs · August 21, 2004

cdn111,

Can you elaborate on this new GM option? I want to add it to my Bose system and was probably going to go with the soundgate/pioneer 910? tuner but if I can use GM parts would like to check that out. Where did you see this?

Thanks

kadillac_kid · August 21, 2004

If somebody else doesn't beat me to it, I'm gonna check with our parts department Monday and get ALL the details on installing factory XM hardware for plug-and-play with our existing GM radios. I've been considering installing factory XM in my '04 Sierra for a few weeks, but have been too busy to get the details. While we haven't done it yet for any of our customers, I'm 99% sure it will work, and so do the majority of our technicians that I've thrown the idea at(just one of those things we haven't dealt with yet). I've got the Bose system, but not the 6-Disc CD Radio.

bigdogs · August 21, 2004

kadillac_kid,

Can you also find out if it will work with the Bose 6CD (in dash) unit? as well?

Thanks

cdn111 · August 21, 2004

DEALER-INSTALLED XM SATELLITE RADIO KIT

***********************************************************************

1. PROGRAM NAME:

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"DEALER-INSTALLED XM SATELLITE RADIO KIT"

2. PROGRAM DESCRIPTION:

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GM ACCESSORIES IS PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT XM SATELLITE RADIO IS NOW AVAILABLE AS A DEALER-INSTALLED ACCESSORY KIT FOR CHEVY, GMC, AND CADILLAC FULLSIZE TRUCK AND FULLSIZE SUV MODELS.

LIST PRICE = $397.14

ACTIVATION:

1. ENSURE RECEIVER IS IN AN OPEN AREA WHERE IT CAN RECEIVE SIGNAL

2. POWER ON THE RADIO & SELECT THE XM BAND USING THE "BAND" BUTTON.

USING THE "TUNE" BUTTON, GO TO CHANNEL 0, AND NOTE THE 8-DIGIT

RADIO ID.

3. DOCUMENT THE 17-DIGIT VIN

4. CALL XM RADIO ON THE GM DEALER LINE AT 1-800-556-3600, AND

ADVISE THE XM LISTENER CARE REPRESENTATIVE YOU WISH TO ACTIVATE

XM SERVICE AND THE GM 3-MONTH TRIAL ON A GM VEHICLE. DEALERS

WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RADIO ID AND CUSTOMER BILLING

INFORMATION TO SET UP THE ACCOUNT.

5. VERIFY RADIO IS RECEIVING CHANNELS 7, 9, 47, & 122 TO ENSURE ALL CHANNELS HAVE BEEN ACTIVATED.

IMPORTANT NOTES:

DEALERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING THE XM RADIO RECEIVERS SUPPLIED

BY SPO'S ACCESSORY KIT FOR WARRANTY REPLACEMENTS.

GM RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RESTRICT OR DENY DEALER OR ADI

PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM IF GUIDELINES ARE NOT FOLLOWED.

PRICING:

MSRP OF THE KIT IS $397.14 + INSTALLATION (1.5 HOURS)

XM BASIC MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION COST IS $9.99/MONTH

XM MULTI-YEAR PACKAGES ARE ALSO AVAILABLE FOR THE DEALER-INSTALLED

XM RADIO KIT BY CALLING XM LISTENER CARE ON THE GM DEALER LINE

AT 1-800-556-3600.

PLEASE NOTE NORMAL XM MULTI-YEAR PACKAGE PROCESS DOES NOT APPLY TO

DEALER-INSTALLED KITS:

1. CUSTOMER DELIVERY RECORD (CDR) MAY NOT BE USED TO SELECT

MULTI-YEAR PACKAGES ON DEALER-INSTALLED XM RADIO KITS.

2. THERE IS NO MULTI-YEAR PACKAGE SPIFF/INCENTIVE AVAILABLE

FOR THE DEALER-INSTALLED XM RADIO KITS.

3. MULTI-YEAR SERVICE PACKAGES MAY NOT BE ROLLED INTO LEASE

OR FINANCE TERMS. DEALER SHOULD NOT COLLECT PAYMENT FOR

SERVICE FROM THE CUSTOMER. CUSTOMERS MUST CONTACT XM

DIRECTLY AT 1-800-XM-RADIO TO PAY FOR SERVICE.

NEW PRICING FOR MULTI-YEAR PACKAGES EFFECTIVE JULY 9, 2004:

PACKAGE XM MULTI-YEAR

TERM PRICE

1 YEAR $119.88 - CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY

2 YEARS $214.99 - CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY

3 YEARS $314.99 - CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY

4 YEARS $410.99 - CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY

5 YEARS $499.99 - CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY

MULTI-YEAR PACKAGE AUTOMATICALLY BEGINS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING

THE 3-MONTH TRIAL SERVICE PROVIDED TO ALL GM CUSTOMERS

NOTE:

· DEALER MAY NOT USE CDR FOR MULTI-YEAR PACKAGES ON DEALER-INSTALLED XM RADIO KITS - CUSTOMER'S MULTI-YEAR SERVICE

ACCOUNT WILL NOT BE SET UP UNLESS A CALL IS PLACED TO XM

TO SET UP PACKAGE.

· TO SET UP A MULTI-YEAR PACKAGE FOR A CUSTOMER, DEALER MUST CALL XM AT 1-800-556-3600, PROVIDE RADIO ID, AND CUSTOMER'S BILLING

INFORMATION.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

3. PROGRAM TIME PERIOD:

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PROGRAM DATES: AUGUST 10, 2004 - DECEMBER 31, 2004

4. MODEL ELIGIBILITY:

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· THE FOLLOWING 2003-2005 MODEL YEAR VEHICLES ARE ELIGIBLE:

· SILVERADO, AVALANCHE, TAHOE, SUBURBAN, SIERRA, YUKON, YUKON XL, DENALI, DENALI XL, ESCALADE, ESCALADE ESV, ESCALADE EXT

· VEHICLES PURCHASED USING GMS, OR DEALER EMPLOYEE VEHICLE DISCOUNTS ARE ELIGIBLE

· PEP/CVO VEHICLES ARE ELIGIBLE AT RETAIL DELIVERY

· FLEET DELIVERIES ARE ELIGIBLE

5. METHOD OF APPLICATION/INCENTIVE CODE/FINAL DATE FOR

SUBMISSION OF APPLICATIONS AND RESOLUTION OF REJECTS:

----------------------------------------------------

METHOD OF APPLICATION: N/A

INCENTIVE CODE: N/A

FINAL DATE FOR VEHICLE DELIVERY: 12/31/04

FINAL DATE FOR XM ACTIVATION: 12/31/04

FINAL DATE FOR SUBMISSION OF APPLICATIONS AND RESOLUTION OF

REJECTS: 12/31/04

6. METHOD OF PAYMENT:

-----------------

CUSTOMER MUST PAY XM DIRECTLY FOR SERVICE.

SERVICE MAY NOT BE ROLLED INTO LEASE/FINANCE TERMS.

DEALER SHOULD NOT COLLECT PAYMENT FROM CUSTOMER.

o CALL XM TO SET UP ACCOUNT, AND ADVISE THE LISTENER CARE

REPRESENTATIVE THE CUSTOMER SHOULD BE BILLED DIRECTLY

FOR SERVICE OR PROVIDE CUSTOMER CREDIT CARD

IMPORTANT PROGRAM NOTES:

-----------------------

- XM MULTI-YEAR PACKAGES HAVE NO CONTRACTUAL CUSTOMER OBLIGATION.

CUSTOMERS WHO CANCEL RECEIVE A PRORATED REFUND FOR THE UNUSED

PORTION OF THE SUBSCRIPTION.

- ALL QUESTIONS ON THIS PROGRAM SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO YOUR

GMSPO REPRESENTATIVE.

7. GENERAL POLICY GUIDELINES:

-------------------------

A. GM / ONSTAR / XM RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL, AMEND,

REVISE OR REVOKE ANY PROGRAM AT ANY TIME BASED ON

ITS SOLE BUSINESS JUDGMENT. FINAL DECISIONS IN ALL

MATTERS RELATIVE TO THE INTERPRETATION OF ANY RULE

OR PHASE OF THIS ACTIVITY RESTS SOLELY WITH ONSTAR/XM.

B. GM / ONSTAR / XM RESERVES THE RIGHT TO AUDIT DEALER RECORDS

AND DISQUALIFY ANY DEALER/ADI FROM PARTICIPATION IN THE

PROGRAM IN THE EVENT SALES DO NOT MEET THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

If anyone is interested, I can probably get them for you below list price. Let me know.

lrymal · August 22, 2004

Am curious and we have been through this before, but I just want to see it again, hoping someone will say, NOT TRUE. Ok, here goes: does the factory OEM radio display for XM satellite display only EIGHT characters? Does it scroll, or is the song title, author name, etc., truncated. Or, if the word is over eight characters, does it wrap to a second line?

bigdogs · August 22, 2004

cdn111,

Thanks for posting this info. Does that 12/31/04 date mean that you have to get it before then or else it is no longer offered?

You also mentioned about getting them below list, what kind of price are you talking about? Also will a local dealer install it and do the radio programming if not bought from them? Lastly does that include the XM antenna and installation for that?