Low Octane From Premium Pumps

[dlstewart01]

http://www.khou.com/news/Records-show-gas-...s-70233502.html

[amtz.zero]

That's just wrong. They need to see some consequences for that.

[Stevens03]

Agreed, just wrong!

[txab]

Unidentified man: “Why are you asking me these questions?”

 

11 News: “Well why are you running from me?”

 

[Toadz]

That's just f'ed up.

 

I like how most of the people commenting on the story accused Obama for this problem. I suppose we should get that rogue Sarah Palin in office to fix things up, eh? Ya' betcha'!

[_Nomad_]

That's just f'ed up.

 

I like how most of the people commenting on the story accused Obama for this problem. I suppose we should get that rogue Sarah Palin in office to fix things up, eh? Ya' betcha'!

 

She would certainly do a better job than that goob Obama. Palin actually has experience dealing harshly with the oil industry. Besides, she didn't run for President, McCain did, remember?

[cerbomark]

How come there were no invoices showing where the Super Unleaded tanks were full and they had to dump Super into the regular tanks?

I was born at night But not last night.

[Nytemare]

That's not cool....however, dropping that little amount of fuel into a high octane under ground tank wouldn't change the octane level that much.

 

they can get away with up to 10% in a tank and not significantly change the octane rating.

 

Since the tanks are 10,000 gallon they would have to put well over 1000 in the tank to change from 93 to 92.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong here...I'm not saying its anything close to right, and it is a total rip, and I would be irate to know this had happened to me.

 

The price should be adjusted accordingly (price lowered by the percentage of fuel that was delivered to that tank that was not premium)for the end consumer and a sign posted saying what had happened. If the company was honest and posted that the fuel was lower, or got a company out to take measurements when things like this happened, no one would be upset.

 

You have to love this bottom line based society we live in.

 

BTW...for anyone that's not in the know....

An Octane rating on the pump is minimum octane rating of the fuel. Most of the time you can tack 1 or 2 on that number. At my home town we had a few stations that consistently had they're premium (92 octane fuel) measure at 100-102 octane. It would have taken 50% regular fuel to dilute this to under 92 octane.

[Wingnut]

Oh man that would piss me off.

 

That shit could grenade my motor.

[ryan_hermanutz]

That's not cool....however, dropping that little amount of fuel into a high octane under ground tank wouldn't change the octane level that much.

 

they can get away with up to 10% in a tank and not significantly change the octane rating.

 

Since the tanks are 10,000 gallon they would have to put well over 1000 in the tank to change from 93 to 92.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong here...I'm not saying its anything close to right, and it is a total rip, and I would be irate to know this had happened to me.

 

The price should be adjusted accordingly (price lowered by the percentage of fuel that was delivered to that tank that was not premium)for the end consumer and a sign posted saying what had happened. If the company was honest and posted that the fuel was lower, or got a company out to take measurements when things like this happened, no one would be upset.

 

You have to love this bottom line based society we live in.

 

BTW...for anyone that's not in the know....

An Octane rating on the pump is minimum octane rating of the fuel. Most of the time you can tack 1 or 2 on that number. At my home town we had a few stations that consistently had they're premium (92 octane fuel) measure at 100-102 octane. It would have taken 50% regular fuel to dilute this to under 92 octane.

 

The point is that they were cheating people by giving them the cheap gas while making them pay for premium. Not to mention the mid-grade that is a combination of the premium and unleaded blended at the dispenser. The ones who really got the shaft are the mid-grade users.

[desrtrat]

That's not cool....however, dropping that little amount of fuel into a high octane under ground tank wouldn't change the octane level that much.

 

they can get away with up to 10% in a tank and not significantly change the octane rating.

 

Since the tanks are 10,000 gallon they would have to put well over 1000 in the tank to change from 93 to 92.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong here...I'm not saying its anything close to right, and it is a total rip, and I would be irate to know this had happened to me.

 

The price should be adjusted accordingly (price lowered by the percentage of fuel that was delivered to that tank that was not premium)for the end consumer and a sign posted saying what had happened. If the company was honest and posted that the fuel was lower, or got a company out to take measurements when things like this happened, no one would be upset.

 

You have to love this bottom line based society we live in.

 

BTW...for anyone that's not in the know....

An Octane rating on the pump is minimum octane rating of the fuel. Most of the time you can tack 1 or 2 on that number. At my home town we had a few stations that consistently had they're premium (92 octane fuel) measure at 100-102 octane. It would have taken 50% regular fuel to dilute this to under 92 octane.

 

The point is that they were cheating people by giving them the cheap gas while making them pay for premium. Not to mention the mid-grade that is a combination of the premium and unleaded blended at the dispenser. The ones who really got the shaft are the mid-grade users.

 

i could see if someone dropped the wrong fuel in the tank, but to make a profit from ripping off people is

[Nytemare]

No doubt man. But do you expect anything else from BIG OIL

It was probably a pilot project...hit a few stations and see if anyone notices...if not, we can do it everywhere and make an extra billion or so this year.

[minibike132]

No doubt man. But do you expect anything else from BIG OIL

It was probably a pilot project...hit a few stations and see if anyone notices...if not, we can do it everywhere and make an extra billion or so this year.

 

 

This isn't really a ground breaking thought. I wondered about it when I was running a small station at 18. You quickly realize that your records are going to get you if you are smart, apparently they were not. It's a federal law that all in ground tanks have to be checked every so often for leaks and when they do that they check records, if things don't add up either you have a leak or you are putting some in the wrong tank.

 

I'd rather be putting it in the wrong tank, it doesn't carry much penalty. If they are leaking you become a superfund site and they make you put craters in the ground. That is why they check the delivery/output records.

[Nytemare]

Yeah...maybe they were thinking that even if they get caught, seeing as the fine is small, the profit made off selling reg as super more than makes up for it.

 

Than chances are the managers and owners of the stations are the ones blamed in the end. you know some president making a gazillion bucks a year isn't going to take the fall.