Broke ....

wavery · October 26, 2011

Here's wishing you all the best........ bottom line is...... it doesn't hurt to try and if you didn't, you would always wish that you had.

Did you run that CarFax yet?

bgdeer1 · October 26, 2011

Well I just talked to the gm rep.. he kind shied away from the issue only because it was lifted.. but, he did say that they would pay for the frame(3500$) and if I took this deal there would be no warrantty on this frame.. also, I would be only responsible for the labor costs.. he estimated roughly 4000. I don't wanna say im happy but it just sucks knowing I bought this truck n now it needs 4000 for a frame... im happy that they are kind enough to even pay for the frame instead of telling me to get lost. All in all, onne big headache.. glad its getting fixed.

mhenshaw · October 26, 2011

If it was my truck I would not spend 4000 to fix it. That is crazy stupid. There is nothing seriously wrong with your current frame.

Remember a new frame is no small repair and can create hundreds of problems down the road. Like any repair things may or may not ever be right again. I refuse to buy a used truck that I know has been wreaked for this reason. Any major repair can cause problems and in your case you could have electrial issues, body problems and hundreds of other little things go wrong later in life. I am not saying you will have problems after a new frame but you are certainly at risk.

But hey if you have 4 grand to drop in your truck for a repair then go for it. You might want to plan on spending a couple of days checking all the bolts to make sure they were tightened afterwards.

My advise is to spend 200-300 having it welded and be stronger than a new frame plus the truck would be exactly the same as it is now. No new squeaks or body line being off.

07 CC Sierra · October 26, 2011

Well I just talked to the gm rep.. he kind shied away from the issue only because it was lifted.. but, he did say that they would pay for the frame(3500$) and if I took this deal there would be no warrantty on this frame.. also, I would be only responsible for the labor costs.. he estimated roughly 4000. I don't wanna say im happy but it just sucks knowing I bought this truck n now it needs 4000 for a frame... im happy that they are kind enough to even pay for the frame instead of telling me to get lost. All in all, onne big headache.. glad its getting fixed.

$4000 for labor, or total and $500 for labor?

bgdeer1 · October 26, 2011

Well I just talked to the gm rep.. he kind shied away from the issue only because it was lifted.. but, he did say that they would pay for the frame(3500$) and if I took this deal there would be no warrantty on this frame.. also, I would be only responsible for the labor costs.. he estimated roughly 4000. I don't wanna say im happy but it just sucks knowing I bought this truck n now it needs 4000 for a frame... im happy that they are kind enough to even pay for the frame instead of telling me to get lost. All in all, onne big headache.. glad its getting fixed.

$4000 for labor, or total and $500 for labor?

4000 = new frame+labor +(frames free).. I don't wanna drop 4000 .. I have to borrow from my parents ... believe me I don't wanna spend that but I guess I should look around n see what I could get it welded for price wise

cparks555 · October 26, 2011

Sorry to hear about all the trouble with your frame. It would definately make me feel better to have a new frame, but $4000 would be hard to shell out.

07 CC Sierra · October 26, 2011

Well I just talked to the gm rep.. he kind shied away from the issue only because it was lifted.. but, he did say that they would pay for the frame(3500$) and if I took this deal there would be no warrantty on this frame.. also, I would be only responsible for the labor costs.. he estimated roughly 4000. I don't wanna say im happy but it just sucks knowing I bought this truck n now it needs 4000 for a frame... im happy that they are kind enough to even pay for the frame instead of telling me to get lost. All in all, onne big headache.. glad its getting fixed.

$4000 for labor, or total and $500 for labor?

4000 = new frame($3500)+labor($500?) +(frames free).. I don't wanna drop 4000 .. I have to borrow from my parents ... believe me I don't wanna spend that but I guess I should look around n see what I could get it welded for price wise

You said the frame is about $3500 and the dealer is paying for it....Am I missing something here. Sounds like $500 for labor. Or labor is $4000 on top of the free $3500 frame.

bgdeer1 · October 26, 2011

Well I just talked to the gm rep.. he kind shied away from the issue only because it was lifted.. but, he did say that they would pay for the frame(3500$) and if I took this deal there would be no warrantty on this frame.. also, I would be only responsible for the labor costs.. he estimated roughly 4000. I don't wanna say im happy but it just sucks knowing I bought this truck n now it needs 4000 for a frame... im happy that they are kind enough to even pay for the frame instead of telling me to get lost. All in all, onne big headache.. glad its getting fixed.

$4000 for labor, or total and $500 for labor?

4000 = new frame($3500)+labor($500?) +(frames free).. I don't wanna drop 4000 .. I have to borrow from my parents ... believe me I don't wanna spend that but I guess I should look around n see what I could get it welded for price wise

You said the frame is about $3500 and the dealer is paying for it....Am I missing something here. Sounds like $500 for labor. Or labor is $4000 on top of the free $3500 frame.

Gm is paying for the frame, they are not however paying for the labor.. roughly 40004000 for labor I have to pay for. Just took it to another shop to have them look at it.. he said he didn't know what type of metal the frame was made of.. hhs. Metal or another name but I forgot. He told me the time n cost for material labor etc would be alot because u gotta remove the motor and other parts to have room.to weld.. I took it to back to the dealer .. im having them to it.

Stevens03 · October 26, 2011

It would be a cold day in hell before I'd pay the dealer for a frame swap. I don't understand why there willing to give you a frame if you pay them for the labor? That alone sounds like they're putting the screws to you. Did they at least offer to pull your hair while they're screwing you? All GM parts come with a factory 12 months parts and labor warranty, are they pulling that too. Another words, they could put some joe mechanic on the swap and you'd be left with one hell of a mess.

I don't understand why your so afraid to have the frame welded. You had MANY people here tell you it can be done and done for cheap Its your money so good luck

bgdeer1 · October 26, 2011

It would be a cold day in hell before I'd pay the dealer for a frame swap. I don't understand why there willing to give you a frame if you pay them for the labor? That alone sounds like they're putting the screws to you. Did they at least offer to pull your hair while they're screwing you? All GM parts come with a factory 12 months parts and labor warranty, are they pulling that too. Another words, they could put some joe mechanic on the swap and you'd be left with one hell of a mess.

I don't understand why your so afraid to have the frame welded. You had MANY people here tell you it can be done and done for cheap Its your money so good luck

My mechanic is good friends with the guys at the gm dealer im workin with.. if I was some random guy off the street they wouldn't even consider doing anything. Welding is not gonna work either.. he said after labor parts and everything else to do that repair would be upwards close to 4000... 400 to.weld. 1400 to take it apart and money for other parts plus material... either way it's gonna be alot either way.. why not spend thelittle extra and have gm do it and do it right ..

07 CC Sierra · October 27, 2011

It would be a cold day in hell before I'd pay the dealer for a frame swap. I don't understand why there willing to give you a frame if you pay them for the labor? That alone sounds like they're putting the screws to you. Did they at least offer to pull your hair while they're screwing you? All GM parts come with a factory 12 months parts and labor warranty, are they pulling that too. Another words, they could put some joe mechanic on the swap and you'd be left with one hell of a mess.

I don't understand why your so afraid to have the frame welded. You had MANY people here tell you it can be done and done for cheap Its your money so good luck

My mechanic is good friends with the guys at the gm dealer im workin with.. if I was some random guy off the street they wouldn't even consider doing anything. Welding is not gonna work either.. he said after labor parts and everything else to do that repair would be upwards close to 4000... 400 to.weld. 1400 to take it apart and money for other parts plus material... either way it's gonna be alot either way.. why not spend thelittle extra and have gm do it and do it right ..

It sounds like you're getting bent over with either option you presented. Dealer will do the work, but won't warranty it? Something's not adding up.Have you gone to any other shops besides your "mechanic" who is scared to weld and your dealer "hookup"?

00Silverado4x4 · October 27, 2011

I've been following this thread from the beginning & everyone has said something...

Weld it, weld it!

There I feel better, I'm done.

Hope you find a fix that you & your wallet can agree on.

bgdeer1 · October 27, 2011

I've been following this thread from the beginning & everyone has said something...

Weld it, weld it!

There I feel better, I'm done.

Hope you find a fix that you & your wallet can agree on.

If it was that easy why would I continue to post on here asking n informing u guys..? welding is close to the same price and not as strong as a new frame .. either or its complicated.. not as easy as y'all think

00Silverado4x4 · October 27, 2011

I'm not a welder. Have tried, got some "training" years ago, however my opinion is based on years of back yard, shade tree maintenance then the last 15 years in the military maintaining all sorts of support equipment for aircraft (bomblifts, generators, air conditioners.) Prior to my last posting I compared your second pic to what's in my '06. I see no reason it should come even close to frame replacement cost to weld that bugger up and call it a day. It's not precious metal, it's not the sole connection point for your suspension to frame. It's certainly not keeping the body from flying off into the sunset so I whole heartly agree with everyone else to get a second opinion from a competent welder, again I'm not one of them, & get the truck fixed. After all, you have a very expensive paper weight sitting in your driveway while waiting for answers that are costing you entirely too much money. Finally if the "break" is really causing this much hassle I'd be pressing for a buy back or totaling this vehicle rather than a hopeful/possible repair. I'd damn sure wouldn't ever say it is/was or going to be easy in any avenue you end up taking. I've been on the wrong end of "the shaft" myself more than once.

BTW

You have displayed a true virtue of patience through this entire ordeal from GM, dealer, welder, friends, & especially all of us here. My hat is off to you sir.

ChevyTech77 · October 27, 2011

GM is willing to buy the frame on a lifted/heavily modified truck that is out of warranty and GM is screwing this guy?!?!? Come on that's senseless! GM has done 50/50 repairs like this for years for customer satisfaction purposes only. They could have easiliy told him to go take a flying leap but they have offered to cut the cost of the repairs in HALF yet they are the bad guys?!?!?

As for replacing the frame causing all kinds of issues down the road, sure, if a complete f'n hack is doing the repairs otherwise, it is a super clean, super easy repair that nets no left over problems when done right.

$4000 sounds pretty steep to me as well, for labor costs. That frame job should only pay 20ish hours so even if your local dealer gets $100 per labor hour, that's still only $2000 plus a/c refrigerent, wheel alignment and misc. fluids lost during transfer of powertrain parts (which is usually very minimal).