crc/de-squeak brake conditioning treatment

Mossyoakglock · November 25, 2013

Went by Advance today while I was out to talk to somebody about the return policy and ended up speaking with the manager. I explained what has been going on and told him I wanted to try out the Wagners. He said no problem and if they do squeak I can return them and they will just defect them out. He said he used to work for Goodyear for 20 years and all they ever used were Wagners. He even thinks that if the pads are fine that is possibly something with the caliper binding when it heats up but that's something to look at after I try the Wagners.

My one question is this. When looking at them, they have noticeably less pad material than the Akebono's (we compared). I assume this is to compensate for the integrated shims but was wondering if this is something that I should be concerned about?

Looking at the specifications online, they seem to all have the same friction material thickness. Federal Mogul's website shows the thickness to be .71in and Akebono's are 18mm which converts to .71 in.

amc31b · November 25, 2013

The thermoquiets have thicker shims because it contains their vibration absorbing technology that makes them so quiet. You might get 10,000 or so less miles out of them compared to the competition but the trade off is no shim that can come off and less brake noise.

Don't worry about it, just install them and give them a try. I told you advance auto would have no problem returning them even though they were installed and driven on for a while.

Mossyoakglock · November 25, 2013

Hopefully I can get them and put the on this week. With Thanksgiving coming up and it being in the low 30's here and rain/sleet forecasted I don't think I'm going to be able to do it.

Might have to happen early next week.

Mossyoakglock · November 26, 2013

Noticed something that I've never seen before tonight. Got home this evening, backed up my driveway like I normally do and parked. Our automatic outside lights kicked on and I noticed steam coming from the rear of my truck. I thought it was the exhaust but took a flashlight and noticed it was coming from the rear drums. It wasn't smoke and I couldn't smell anything like it was burning.

It's 31-33* here and sleeting/snowing. Could it be just that it is so cold outside and the rear brakes are warm that it is causing them to steam? The front calipers were cold but the rotor was warm. Is it normal for the rear drums to be that much hotter than the fronts? I've never seem that before since I've owned the truck.

I don't think anything is sticking because I can take the drums off no problem with little to no resistance between the shoes and the drum.

moab11 · November 26, 2013

wow, I am having the same problem as Mossy and have been wondering what to do about it. It sounds petty, but is infuriating during city driving, especially in nice weather with the windows down!

I'll be watching this to see if you figure out the problem Mossy as I may be due for new brakes in the near future.

Mossyoakglock · November 27, 2013

Wow. I can't believe this is still going on when it is so easy to solve the problem. Shoot the drums with a pyro & report back.

So easy to solve the problem? What would you suggest i do?

What exactly do you mean shoot it with a pyro?

CapitalTruck · December 2, 2013

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. I assume you still haven't tried OES/OEM pads yet on the front? I had a parking brake issue once with my 04 (drum in hat parking brake). To confirm it was coming from the rear I had to stick my head out the window.

Red Clay · December 3, 2013

Did you apply anti-squeal to the back of the pads where the pistons meet? If not try that before you order anymore pads or rotors, as this is how the are prepped at the factory and what would happen at a service replace.