Production slowed...Hmmm

[Stex]

Said not due to quality...?

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-slows-roll-out-of-new.html

[suess13]

thanks for sharing, so this makes three shortages so far. I wonder what's next.

 

20 wheel shortage

5.3 engine block shortage

Axle shortage

[CLOSERHawk]

I'm sure it won't take long for the topic of discussion to veer towards the cost of the Sierra's and Silverado's on the lot. But, it wasn't that long ago that there were write-ups saying production had slowed as result of a V8 shortage.

[DH2014]

I bet is has to do with the fact that not very many people are in a financial position to buy a new truck with this economy. Dealers just aren't moving very many units. Look at the used car market. Most people used to trade in their vehicles before 36k and 70k. Now people are trading at 75k and over 100k. It's really hurt the used car market. Part of the blame is on the the financing. People are using the rebates to cover negative equity and are getting BURIED in their new ones. Just like in the housing market. When subprime lenders are financing people with as low as 460 credit scores for 72 months, bad things are bound to happen.

[MikeNH]

I bet is has to do with the fact that not very many people are in a financial position to buy a new truck with this economy. Dealers just aren't moving very many units. Look at the used car market. Most people used to trade in their vehicles before 36k and 70k. Now people are trading at 75k and over 100k. It's really hurt the used car market. Part of the blame is on the the financing. People are using the rebates to cover negative equity and are getting BURIED in their new ones. Just like in the housing market. When subprime lenders are financing people with as low as 460 credit scores for 72 months, bad things are bound to happen.

 

Are you kidding? Ram is having the best year ever for sales and Ford is back near pre-recession sales volume. The reason the incentives on the trucks blow is because the market is strong, though I think GM is asking for trouble with its price strategy. GM is hurting because of pricing. I think that now that they finally have the full lineup (this staggered rollout is a horrible system IMO, I've never seen Ford or Ram do that) they could be a strong player but this pricing game is absurd.

[DH2014]

No, I'm not kidding. In Central Texas, it's not just the Chevy dealers that are hurting, it's everyone. From the large dealerships down to the Mom and Pop note lots. The Ram trucks aren't selling very well here. The Fords are still selling, but not as strong as they were back before the summer. I have several friends who work at the dealerships here, and things are usually slow in October, but not this slow. It won't be long before many of these repossessions hit the used car market and things will eventually turn around.

 

And, to prove my point even further, dealerships are scrounging for business and turning to new sub prime lenders. Which is why they are able to report better overall sales. But the sales aren't all new car inventory. Take a look at some dealer websites. When was the last time you saw a new car dealer carring a 1997 cutlass with 134k on their used lot. Five years ago, anything over 75k would have been a wholesale piece or sent to an auction. My point is, General Motors, Ford, & Dodge are all trying to report that things are great and everything is peachy. The sad truth is, "it ain't"

 

Rant on the economy aside. I love my new Chevy.

[Daryl LBZ]

The lots are full here and not many 2014 GMs are on the road. GM's pricing strategy is what is likely holding up production.

 

Same thing here. I have passed 5 or 6 Silverados on the road since these trucks have came out.

[Stex]

Hmmm, not a quality problem but some on the vibration thread have reported new axles ordered. If some get the axle to fix the vibration, maybe it is a quality problem with a supplier.

[voltedge]

Well, Ram is just a bubble waiting to burst since Fiat took majority ownership. I switched over to Chrysler vehicles during the Daimler Benz/Chrysler days because they really improved their products to where they are now and they put their warranties above par to show confidence in it's products. We had very good service out of those vehicles with a few Jeeps, a couple of pass cars and multiple trucks. As soon as they went into their restructure and Daimler was mostly out of the picture, quality and committment virtually dissappeared. Fiat/Chrysler is still riding that wave and using a majority of that technology that they had in the bank ready to put into production. If you'll notice, the Fiat influence is starting to show in most of the products. The new 1500 diesel is an Euro diesel for example.

Just cruise the Ram forums and look at all of the issues and disgust with many of the members new trucks. I personally had to pull teeth to get anything covered under warranty on my 2 year old Ram and they never even attempted to fix the tranny even after visiting three different dealerships. I still loved the Ram interior and the power as well as the phenominal ride that it offered. It had so many negatives though, that I had to drop it like a hot tater when the best opportunity presented itself. If they don't start treating their customers like GM does and bend over backwards to satisfy them, they will be right back in the postion they were before. I hope they get it together, because I would try another one if it was guaranteed like Daimler had them.

Now as for Ford, I just don't get it with all these folks having to have one. I had a 2007 F-150 and it was nice, but it was not the same quality feel as I was used to with GM. Now the brand new 2014's interior looks very similar to the 2007 that I had! That boxed off familiar look is still there inside and out just as the mediocre fuel mileage. The ride also left a lot to be desired, but rode ok on perfect;y smooth roads like anything would. I guess Ford like to hype up their #1 in sales status thanks to all of the fleet & govt deals that add to their large retail market. Not saying I would never own another one, nut it is unlikely as of their current offerings.

My new Silverado has a few issues, but it still gives me that warm fuzzy feeling that ut will be repaired with no issues if the time comes and it will last me as well as any truck out there. Time will tell and I hope it is a repeat of the familiar GM longest lasting trucks on the road slogan.

[stiggy1]

Here in Arkansas the dealers had so many 2013s to sale and had such good incentives and deals that more people purchased the 13 versus a 14.

[Firetiger(MN)]

With the number of issues these trucks are having I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter, i.e. guinea pig. It's pretty disappointing to read of all these nickel and dime problems that folks are having and hopefully GM gets them sorted out soon. It appears I'll be waiting a while before that happens.

 

I would have to agree with the sales, or lack thereof, of these 2014's. I'm not seeing many on the road at all and the dealer in my town has a few of the trucks from their original shipment in July still sitting on the lot. The fact of the matter is that most people don't really see much of a difference in the 2014's compared to the previous model so it doesn't get them excited to trade up to something new and fresh.

 

If word starts to get out that these trucks are lemons coupled with the lack of the perceived difference to previous models due to a lame re-design, GM may soon be staring at an upstream journey with a hole in the boat and one paddle.

[mzodarg]

I'm in southwestern Oklahoma, local dealer has at least 100 14 Silverado's on their lot. Same at the GMC dealer, I don't see a lot of them on the road.

 

Like others have mentioned, GM's pricing strategy is really going to hurt their bottom line. I know 4 guy's that were ready to purchase one and then GM had the price increase.

 

Mike

[Z45]

Pickup truck price gap riles GM dealers - New models must go up against heavily discounted rivals

[MikeNH]

I'm in southwestern Oklahoma, local dealer has at least 100 14 Silverado's on their lot. Same at the GMC dealer, I don't see a lot of them on the road.

 

Like others have mentioned, GM's pricing strategy is really going to hurt their bottom line. I know 4 guy's that were ready to purchase one and then GM had the price increase.

 

Mike

 

It's not uncommon to have that many on the lot given how many different combinations of truck trims are out there. But not selling is a whole other issue.