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You must have installed the Loadlifter 5000 bags (part# 57204).

 

I just went with the Ride Control bags (part# 59565). These bags do not install the same way as the Loadlifters. Looks like Loadlifters mount inside of frame rails while Ride Controls mount outside of rails (did not require removal of jounce bumper).

 

Not sure of differences in each system. Probably weight rating. I've yet to come across a towing or hauling situation the Ride Controls would not handle easily.

 

All the different manufactures are probably producing a decent bag system. After using them for 4+ years, I can't imagine ever having a truck without an air bag set-up.

 

Yep loadlifter 5000 (57204), they mount right were the jounce bumpers are. Like them so far. I have a 2.5" RC leveling kit including the rear 2" block and you do not need spacers for the install.

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Here is the rig with airbags in.

 

I still need to get the truck and the boat loaded to show the improvement.

 

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calgator73 Senior Enthusiast

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Have you considered supersprings add a leaf? Looks like it's not as easy to adjust but you are pretty much mx free. Considering these for my max tow package

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Have you considered supersprings add a leaf? Looks like it's not as easy to adjust but you are pretty much mx free. Considering these for my max tow package

 

I have had air bags on my last two trucks and really like how they operate so I didn't consider the extra leaf spring at all. I don't have max tow pkg, mine is a 3.42 rear end.

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Top pic is before air bags.

 

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The pictures don't do it justice as it is hard to see 2" improvement, but it tows nice now and my headlights don't shoot into the sky. I also put a 5.25" drop in the second picture compared to a 3.25 drop in the first.

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I had air bags on my previous truck and didn't care for the stiff ride when unloaded vs stock ride. Does anyone have experience with Timbrens? I have a 2" RC leveling kit and my truck has about a 1.5" sag when hooked to my TT. I wonder if the Timbrens would even do much for me here?

I do like the adjustablity of air bags, but they are $$$!

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I emailed timbrens before getting the Air Lift product, their rubber jounce bumpers will not eliminate sag at all. They are designed to not alter truck stiffness unless under load. The weight engages the timbren and then it helps stiffen the ride while towing.

 

With your lift I would guess a timbren does nothing for the sag.

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I ordered some Air Lift brand helper bags due to the rebate and Summitt Racings reviews on them. I got a 2" spacer as well to make sure the lift doesn't make them not work.

 

Here is the sag I am seeing now.

 

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In the mean time, just move the boat back on the trailer and slide the winch back some to eliminate some of the tongue weight
bdbake01 Senior Enthusiast

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Just make sure you always have a bit more weight on the front trailer axle than the back (on 2+ axles). Otherwise the tail will wag the dog.

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Kevingorr Enthusiast

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I had the timbrens on my Colordo a few years back. For the 3 times a year I had significant weight in the bed, it was great and did a good job, improved ride under load. For the rest of the time, not so good. Hitting any bumps would slam the timbrens into the frame and then bounce front to back. Mind you, I am not sure if a full sized truck would have the same results as with my 1/4 ton, but I would imagine it would be close. So I see you went with air bags, that is what I would recommend.

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I had the timbrens on my Colordo a few years back. For the 3 times a year I had significant weight in the bed, it was great and did a good job, improved ride under load. For the rest of the time, not so good. Hitting any bumps would slam the timbrens into the frame and then bounce front to back. Mind you, I am not sure if a full sized truck would have the same results as with my 1/4 ton, but I would imagine it would be close. So I see you went with air bags, that is what I would recommend.

 

Ive got the Timbrens on my max tow 6.2L.

You do indeed still get slam of the timbren over harsh bumps....I'm getting used to it.

They definitely help with the sag of rear end when hooked up to trailer,but do not eliminate it. The rear has to sag over an inch before the Timbren even comes into play.

I tried them mainly because of cost....but ultimately if I keep this truck I think air bags will go on just for the adjustability.

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I had the timbrens on my Colordo a few years back. For the 3 times a year I had significant weight in the bed, it was great and did a good job, improved ride under load. For the rest of the time, not so good. Hitting any bumps would slam the timbrens into the frame and then bounce front to back.

Ditto. I hated the ride with rear timbrens and no load. So i took them off and installed a Add-a-leaf. much better for daily driving. If I was to tow some serious weight, I would lean toward airbags. But my Hellwig springs seem to do a nice job. This is the second truck I have used them on.

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So with a 2.5 RC kit with rear blocks, are air bag spacers required?

 

 

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