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Does anybody else get tired of hearing statements like this; "that's why you don't buy a first year model."

It really gets under my skin.

If GM actually did the testing they claim on these new trucks and were honest about the results, it wouldn't matter if it was a first year model. I quote "the trucks will accumulate more than 7 million real-world miles during final testing, bringing total test miles to more than 13 million."

 

They should know everything about these trucks to include having encountered all of the problems at one point or another.

 

"Engineered and validated for demanding customers;

Truck customers are among the most discerning and demanding in the business. They know trucks inside out many have owned trucks for decades. They work their trucks hard, under conditions that would shock many car owners. They have tough tasks to do, and they expect their trucks to do them, without complaint. And they expect their trucks to endure the average age of a full-size pickup is now more than 10.4 years.

 

The team that designed the new Silverado went to extremes to design a new truck that would exceed the demands of these customers.

 

For example, GMs new full-size trucks will undergo more than 6 million miles of durability testing in the torture chambers at the Milford Proving Ground, over the deserts and mountains of Nevada and across the frozen flats of Kapuskasing, Ontario. Thats equivalent to 240 trips around the earth. In addition, the trucks will accumulate more than 7 million real-world miles during final testing, bringing total test miles to more than 13 million.

 

The increased power, torque and efficiency of the new EcoTec3 engine family resulted from an unprecedented level of computer analysis, including extensive computational flow dynamics, to optimize the burning of air and fuel in the cylinders. More than 10 million of hours of computational analysis went into the engine program. More than 6 million hours about 685 years worth of analysis went into the advanced combustion system alone.

 

Even the basics, like the new inlaid doors, were tested to the extreme, with the doors undergoing nearly 150 truck lives worth of testing."

http://www.2014silveradomedia.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/silverado/2014.html

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Given how high my build sequence was I figured it would be okay. Getting some of the first ones off the line can have issues sometimes as they get things adjusted and going.

 

Saw big issues with the Traverse in its first year the 2009 all needed up with timing chain issues gm made the oil paths to small feeding the chain. For 2010 they made them bigger as the Camaro had the same base block only a double chain. They fixed the problem and did dent even know it at the time..

 

The only issue I see is some people having a vibration issue with the trucks. But again it's probably a small few.

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Given how high my build sequence was I figured it would be okay. Getting some of the first ones off the line can have issues sometimes as they get things adjusted and going.

Saw big issues with the Traverse in its first year the 2009 all needed up with timing chain issues gm made the oil paths to small feeding the chain. For 2010 they made them bigger as the Camaro had the same base block only a double chain. They fixed the problem and did dent even know it at the time..

The only issue I see is some people having a vibration issue with the trucks. But again it's probably a small few.

Have you looked at the shake/vibration poll?
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My '14 has been problem free, I can't figure out why some shake and vibrate like a mofo and others ride smooth as glass.

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Does anybody else get tired of hearing statements like this; "that's why you don't buy a first year model."

It really gets under my skin.

If GM actually did the testing they claim on these new trucks and were honest about the results, it wouldn't matter if it was a first year model. I quote "the trucks will accumulate more than 7 million real-world miles during final testing, bringing total test miles to more than 13 million."

 

They should know everything about these trucks to include having encountered all of the problems at one point or another.

 

"Engineered and validated for demanding customers;

Truck customers are among the most discerning and demanding in the business. They know trucks inside out many have owned trucks for decades. They work their trucks hard, under conditions that would shock many car owners. They have tough tasks to do, and they expect their trucks to do them, without complaint. And they expect their trucks to endure the average age of a full-size pickup is now more than 10.4 years.

 

The team that designed the new Silverado went to extremes to design a new truck that would exceed the demands of these customers.

 

For example, GMs new full-size trucks will undergo more than 6 million miles of durability testing in the torture chambers at the Milford Proving Ground, over the deserts and mountains of Nevada and across the frozen flats of Kapuskasing, Ontario. Thats equivalent to 240 trips around the earth. In addition, the trucks will accumulate more than 7 million real-world miles during final testing, bringing total test miles to more than 13 million.

 

The increased power, torque and efficiency of the new EcoTec3 engine family resulted from an unprecedented level of computer analysis, including extensive computational flow dynamics, to optimize the burning of air and fuel in the cylinders. More than 10 million of hours of computational analysis went into the engine program. More than 6 million hours about 685 years worth of analysis went into the advanced combustion system alone.

 

Even the basics, like the new inlaid doors, were tested to the extreme, with the doors undergoing nearly 150 truck lives worth of testing."

http://www.2014silveradomedia.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/silverado/2014.html

I have bought new models, but typically hold off from picking up on right off the lot or dropping an order right away.

 

With that said I agree you would think the testing would be conducted. But in reality all manufactures struggle with this, some more than others. Another reality is no amount of testing is going to simulate the miles and the abuse that happens in the real world, Things happen out there in the real world. Also when testing the sample size is real small, when you start talking the hundred of thousands of trucks out there, the sample size gets larger so does issues.

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Can't tell you how many 1st year vehicles I have owned. Never had a problem with any of them.

 

I know I get sick of hearing about it on this board. Seems to be 2-3 guys on here; that do nothing but always complain about how bad the 14's are.

 

Mine is flawless, aside from the cheap paint GM uses.

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Can't tell you how many 1st year vehicles I have owned. Never had a problem with any of them.

 

I know I get sick of hearing about it on this board. Seems to be 2-3 guys on here; that do nothing but always complain about how bad the 14 is.

 

Mine is flawless, aside from the cheap paint GM uses.

There are a couple of guys on here (I won't name names) that I don't think even own a K2, constantly talking about how crappy they are.

 

Their voices seem to be even louder than the folks legitimately having problems with their trucks, like the OP.

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My '14 has been problem free, I can't figure out why some shake and vibrate like a mofo and others ride smooth as glass.

 

I hear ya!

I've had mine close to 100, and it's as smooth at that speed as it is only going 20.

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Can't tell you how many 1st year vehicles I have owned. Never had a problem with any of them.

 

I know I get sick of hearing about it on this board. Seems to be 2-3 guys on here; that do nothing but always complain about how bad the 14 is.

 

Mine is flawless, aside from the cheap paint GM uses.

Paint is crap on most new vehicles sadly.

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There are a couple of guys on here (I won't name names) that I don't think even own a K2, constantly talking about how crappy they are.

 

Their voices seem to be even louder than the folks legitimately having problems with their trucks, like the OP.

Oh I agree and have said the same thing in the past. Few of the crap talkers don't even own a 14 or 15. They have to say something negative in almost every post on here.

 

Others suffer from the Chicken Little syndrome. Nothing wrong with their trucks, but come on here and read these posts; and automatically think they have issues also. The sky is falling......

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The stock tires are junk

 

Not for everyone.

 

Mine are the stock GY SR-A's. Wouldn't buy them, but I have no issues with them.

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I have a sept 2013 built regular cab and besides a few very minor things my truck has been trouble free . I have to admit I was worried a little about it being a redesign so I decided to get the ext warranty . I know for 6 years that I won't have to worry about paying for repairs . By then I should be ready to trade it in for a new one .

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Yes I've seen the polls. I've been on many fourms over the years and people with issues tend to search out the fourms. This tends to distort the actual facts on issues as people having problems tend to be more vocal. Which is fine as they came for help and many times I've seen fixes discovered on fourms. That is why all manufactures monitor the forums now days.

 

Just checking http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov for 2014 Chevy silverado and there is only 36 complaints filed.

 

Yes most are for vibration. However given an entire year has almost gone by I think the number of complaints is very good given the large volume of trucks that have been built to date.

 

Seeing the timing chain issues with the 2009 Traverses complaints were in the thousands to many to go through.

 

Reality is only a very small few have a vibration issue. That is one reason gm is having problems finding it.

 

I'm not trying to start any thing it's just the facts. If I based my purchase on just what I read on fourms that would be unwise and I wouldn't buy anything ever ha ha. . I always research big purchases on a wide scale.

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Mine is perfect in every way, except the Black is a P.I.T.A. to keep clean.

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