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crafferty Senior Enthusiast

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That sound funny my friend, When you say that the 5.2 for the future GT 500 is stock with twin turbos ,You don't really believe that crap do you ? If it was stock the flat-plane- crankshaft 5.2 would be offered in all mustangs and trucks !

All I said when I made that post was the rumors are the next GT500 could be a V8 with twin turbo's producing over 800hp. I never mentioned anything about the 5.2 flat plane nor did the person I quoted in the original post.

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The only thing people are complaining about is 'V6'. If you look at just the horsepower/torque numbers there's no question of whether you'd want the EcoBoost or not.

 

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The power numbers are nothing to sneeze at.

 

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The only complaint you could possibly have is that it doesn't sound like a V8.

 

 

 

Another real complaint should be the real world use fuel mileage because it sucks, not even close to Fords outlandish claims. They are flat out liars and will do and say anything to push these engines on the customer.

 

Here is my EcoPoop story from this past summer.................

 

I travel to WV every year, at least once a year for a week long ATV outing. There are several of us that drive down and just so happen to have an EcoPoop powered F150 in the group this year.

 

On our WV ATV trip this year, my cousin drove his (12,000miles) 2014 F150 EcoBoost , the 3.5L I believe, it's the larger of the two. He had his F150 with 1 adult passanger, 1 full size Yamaha Grizzly atv on the trailer, a few camping items in the cab of his truck, and an extra set of atv tires in his truck bed. He averaged only 8mpg on the trip down from Pennsylvania, pathetic!

I drove my 2008 Silverado with 6.0L Vortec Max engine hauling a larger, heavier trailer with 2 full size Arctic Cat atv's. My truck also had most of the luggage and beverages in the bed and back of the cab. I averaged 11mpg on the trip there. (We did not think of having our trucks weighed but plan to do so next year when making the trip.)

 

When Ford introduced this EcoBoost engine, they talked up how great the fuel mileage was and how much better than all of the other manufacturers offerings, that's clearly not the case. The EcoBoost gets terrible MPG's in the real world, especially while doing any type of work. It may seem impressive in the Ford controlled enviroment testing but that means absolutely nothing. It may also seem impressive on their advertising when showing the F150 pulling logs and driving with a trailer around a race track but in the real world, it's terrible. Besides the issues owners are having with timing chains, turbo failure, horrible driveline vibration, and soundling like a wet fart, the MPG numbers just don't stack up to Fords claims.

 

I thought it was funny the first time he said he needed to stop for fuel because the entire week before the trip, he bragged about how great his truck was, it was going to embarrass all of the other trucks in the group, and claimed he would not have to make many fuel stops on the way there, he was going to save money because his truck would get the best fuel mileage. To say the least, he was extremely disappointed with the performance of his highly talked up EcoBoost F150 and is regretting his purchase because he does a lot of traveling with his atv.....If he would have listened to me and bought a new Silverado, Sierra, or the F250 he was looking at, he would not have the terrible and expensive MPG issue that came with the EcoBoost.

 

I can clearly see those numbers you copied and pasted and have heard all of the hype from Ford about their EcoBoost engines and NO, I don't want anything to do with it. If I were shopping for an F150, I would want a V8 without a doubt. I would prefer their 6.2L but don't know if it is still being offered. The 5L would do, as long as it doesn't play fake exhaust and engine sound through the stereo speakers, that's nonsense. The EcoBoost trucks sound like a wet fart, period, there's nothing Ford can do to change that and playing noise throught speakers inside the cab doesn't help, it's foolish to say the least.

I know several EcoBoost owners I work with and for the most part, they are not all happy with their trucks. It's mainly because the numbers Ford has been advertising are not even close to reality, especially while towing. One of those guys just traded his 2015 EcoPoop, he only had it for 3 months and is now the proud owner of a 2015 Tundra that he loves, and it gets better MPG's than the EcoPoop ever did. It may not have turbos and it's not tuned to the max for performance but he is happy with it and it should last a long time. A couple of the others are undecided if they are going to keep their trucks or trade them for a different manufacturer, only time will tell.

 

I really hope GM does not get in line and shove little turbo charged engines in the Silverado and Sierra, that would be terrible. If that does happen, I guess I will be a Tundra owner when it comes time for a new truck.

 

The numbers Ford released are false, the flywheel HP rating is inflated, not even close to what you end up with.

"Two Guys Garage" just had an EcoBoost on their show, doing performance upgrades. They Dyno'd a new F150 EcoPoop and it put out

250-something HP at the rear wheels, that is reality................................

 

If you are happy with your EcoPoop F150, that's fine, good for you. It's just not what Ford has claimed.

truckofwinandawesome Senior Enthusiast

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Another real complaint should be the real world use fuel mileage because it sucks, not even close to Fords outlandish claims. They are flat out liars and will do and say anything to push these engines on the customer.

 

Here is my EcoPoop story from this past summer.................

 

I travel to WV every year, at least once a year for a week long ATV outing. There are several of us that drive down and just so happen to have an EcoPoop powered F150 in the group this year.

 

On our WV ATV trip this year, my cousin drove his (12,000miles) 2014 F150 EcoBoost , the 3.5L I believe, it's the larger of the two. He had his F150 with 1 adult passanger, 1 full size Yamaha Grizzly atv on the trailer, a few camping items in the cab of his truck, and an extra set of atv tires in his truck bed. He averaged only 8mpg on the trip down from Pennsylvania, pathetic!

I drove my 2008 Silverado with 6.0L Vortec Max engine hauling a larger, heavier trailer with 2 full size Arctic Cat atv's. My truck also had most of the luggage and beverages in the bed and back of the cab. I averaged 11mpg on the trip there. (We did not think of having our trucks weighed but plan to do so next year when making the trip.)

 

When Ford introduced this EcoBoost engine, they talked up how great the fuel mileage was and how much better than all of the other manufacturers offerings, that's clearly not the case. The EcoBoost gets terrible MPG's in the real world, especially while doing any type of work. It may seem impressive in the Ford controlled enviroment testing but that means absolutely nothing. It may also seem impressive on their advertising when showing the F150 pulling logs and driving with a trailer around a race track but in the real world, it's terrible. Besides the issues owners are having with timing chains, turbo failure, horrible driveline vibration, and soundling like a wet fart, the MPG numbers just don't stack up to Fords claims.

 

I thought it was funny the first time he said he needed to stop for fuel because the entire week before the trip, he bragged about how great his truck was, it was going to embarrass all of the other trucks in the group, and claimed he would not have to make many fuel stops on the way there, he was going to save money because his truck would get the best fuel mileage. To say the least, he was extremely disappointed with the performance of his highly talked up EcoBoost F150 and is regretting his purchase because he does a lot of traveling with his atv.....If he would have listened to me and bought a new Silverado, Sierra, or the F250 he was looking at, he would not have the terrible and expensive MPG issue that came with the EcoBoost.

 

I can clearly see those numbers you copied and pasted and have heard all of the hype from Ford about their EcoBoost engines and NO, I don't want anything to do with it. If I were shopping for an F150, I would want a V8 without a doubt. I would prefer their 6.2L but don't know if it is still being offered. The 5L would do, as long as it doesn't play fake exhaust and engine sound through the stereo speakers, that's nonsense. The EcoBoost trucks sound like a wet fart, period, there's nothing Ford can do to change that and playing noise throught speakers inside the cab doesn't help, it's foolish to say the least.

I know several EcoBoost owners I work with and for the most part, they are not all happy with their trucks. It's mainly because the numbers Ford has been advertising are not even close to reality, especially while towing. One of those guys just traded his 2015 EcoPoop, he only had it for 3 months and is now the proud owner of a 2015 Tundra that he loves, and it gets better MPG's than the EcoPoop ever did. It may not have turbos and it's not tuned to the max for performance but he is happy with it and it should last a long time. A couple of the others are undecided if they are going to keep their trucks or trade them for a different manufacturer, only time will tell.

 

I really hope GM does not get in line and shove little turbo charged engines in the Silverado and Sierra, that would be terrible. If that does happen, I guess I will be a Tundra owner when it comes time for a new truck.

 

The numbers Ford released are false, the flywheel HP rating is inflated, not even close to what you end up with.

"Two Guys Garage" just had an EcoBoost on their show, doing performance upgrades. They Dyno'd a new F150 EcoPoop and it put out

250-something HP at the rear wheels, that is reality................................

 

If you are happy with your EcoPoop F150, that's fine, good for you. It's just not what Ford has claimed.

 

its the reason why I (and many other members as well) have dubbed it the EgoBoast engine.

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