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Colossus Senior Enthusiast

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There will yet be components under and on the vehicle that will still be prone to rust. How badly? I don't know.

TJay74 Senior Enthusiast

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The biggest thing that worries me is rust. All vehicles are using thin water based paints these days so if GM is right in there with the rest of them, it doesn't bother me as much as if they were making an inferior product. I'm actually looking forward to the 2018 change to aluminum though so we don't have to worry about rust anymore on the body. Now if they could just powdercoat or properly paint a frame.......

 

GM and none of the other manufactures will ever powder coat or paint the frames, it is way to labor intensive and costly. I know GM and Ford have been wax dipping frames since the early 2000's, they just need to make sure the frames are properly coated.

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

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GM and none of the other manufactures will ever powder coat or paint the frames, it is way to labor intensive and costly. I know GM and Ford have been wax dipping frames since the early 2000's, they just need to make sure the frames are properly coated.

Ford paints their frames. GM is the only manufacturer I know of that does the wax dipping. The Colorado and Canyon are painted frames though. I agree powdercoating is a bit extreme but paint would be great. Then you can at least easily touch it up with Rustoleum if required.

TJay74 Senior Enthusiast

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I guess Ford is selective then, buddy has a F150 and his frame and rear axle were both covered in surface rust do to not having any sort of protective coating on them from the factory.

Jordan18 Enthusiast

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Ford paints their frames. GM is the only manufacturer I know of that does the wax dipping. The Colorado and Canyon are painted frames though. I agree powdercoating is a bit extreme but paint would be great. Then you can at least easily touch it up with Rustoleum if required.

 

The super duty's we have at work are painted and seem to hold up well. The 2017 super duty redesign I think even takes it up a notch with a new "E-Coat" paint, which if I read correctly is like a powder coat but the paint is "electrically applied"

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Sorry to derail the thread a bit. But GM definitely needs to get rid of the wax. Every newer GM truck I see shows peeling and it just looks crappy because mud and dirt stick to the wax so bad.

 

 

The only thing keeping my frame intact better than stock is the armaguard "bedliner" type spray that was applied on the frame. I got some POR15 that I am going to apply soon as well for added protection, at least in the bad areas.

Nightwalker Enthusiast

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The super duty's we have at work are painted and seem to hold up well. The 2017 super duty redesign I think even takes it up a notch with a new "E-Coat" paint, which if I read correctly is like a powder coat but the paint is "electrically applied"

Frame-1.jpg

 

Sorry to derail the thread a bit. But GM definitely needs to get rid of the wax. Every newer GM truck I see shows peeling and it just looks crappy because mud and dirt stick to the wax so bad.

 

 

The only thing keeping my frame intact better than stock is the armaguard "bedliner" type spray that was applied on the frame. I got some POR15 that I am going to apply soon as well for added protection, at least in the bad areas.

Be careful of putting POR15 on nuts and bolt heads,it's self explanatory but I made that mistake.I painted a frame on 03 ram when I had the bed off and still dealing with nuts and bolts bonded together when I replace parts.I have to replace them once removed cause their destroyed during the process.

 

 

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Jordan18 Enthusiast

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Be careful of putting POR15 on nuts and bolt heads,it's self explanatory but I made that mistake.I painted a frame on 03 ram when I had the bed off and still dealing with nuts and bolts bonded together when I replace parts.I have to replace them once removed cause their destroyed during the process.

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Ya I did some research on the stuff already. Basically anything that may need to be removed at some point is basically off limits. That's why I only plan to put it on flat frame surfaces that are exposed to the most debris. Supposedly not supposed to apply it in direct sunlight either.

pm26 Senior Enthusiast

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A lot of the changes to the paint is because of the switch to water-based paints. Believe me, GM is not hardly the worst. My 2011 VW GTI looked like it had been through a sandstorm after the first winter - all the chips in the paint were ridiculous. Unfortunately it's become the norm for all cars/trucks today, with the switch to environmentally friendly paints.

Unfortunately, environmentally friendly and wallet friendly are not synonymous in this context.

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