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So to answer your question yes, it is possible. Good news is no programming required. Bad news , like pgamboa mentioned a lot repining terminals, a lot of research and a LOT of determination.!! I was lucky enough that Phil and I live close and do this retrofit little by little but def worth it. Still need to figure out the heating but I live in Texas so I got that covered [emoji1303]. Eventually will get the heating back on.


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I have a 14 and I want to go from cloth to leather. Not just wanting a cover or new skins. I am hoping to be able to use my power driver seat and convert my manual passenger seat to power. I'm not worried about heated seats. Yes they are nice but would rather have comfort over that. I see a lot of pinning needing done to get other things to work. And I read several other threads here and elsewhere. Seems a lot go for all or nothing. I'm really wanting power seats and that is it. Looks like I may have to run a + and - to possibly get it to work. Is that correct? Also wanting to swap to a center console at the same time. I know I need to check a few connections before I order the pnp harness. Anything that I'm missing? Anyone make a pnp harness that connects to the factory end then crossed over into a new factory connector to connect to the seat? 

  • 10 months later...
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On 12/29/2016 at 11:20 AM, 14 Silvy said:

It would be a lot of work and expensive then you would have to have the bcm flashed (if dealer will). I didn't go with cooled but I put a katzkin leather kit and a universal seat heater kit and absolutely love it. The factory heated and cooled seats use fans iirc. The kit I used has carbon fiber elements and heats up quickly and better than my wife's Denali.

 

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Can you share what universal seat heater you used?

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I just ordered a set off of Ebay when I ordered the katzkins.

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How was it wiring them in?

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How was it wiring them in?

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Just a power and ground it has a inline fuse and relays in the harness. Then figure where to mount the switches.


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Just a power and ground it has a inline fuse and relays in the harness. Then figure where to mount the switches.


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Thanks. Sounds easy enough. Where did you tap the power?

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My question (and I know there is a thread but not an answered topic that I can find) is this the best possible solution for heated seats if your truck didn't come equipped? I just went through the process that @pgamboa assisted with where I took my factory cloth seats out of my LT crew cab and put newer leather seats with heat and seat memory.  Phil sent me his wiring harness to by pass the seat memory (I still have the airbag light) and Phil indicates that even though I now have the bezel with the heated seat switches and my wires for heated seats were behind my factory non heat bezel, they don't work.  Can I send my off to get the module reprogrammed by one of our recommended companies and then have my dealer re program the MSM under my seat to show the power seat on the passenger side?  Right now, I now have leather and these shiny buttons that don't work for heated seats, but no heat and an airbag light.  Looking for recommendations on if I should just get after market seat heaters and switches or can I just have someone program my heated seat assembly.  Thanks all!

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11 hours ago, Rmiles2314 said:

My question (and I know there is a thread but not an answered topic that I can find) is this the best possible solution for heated seats if your truck didn't come equipped? I just went through the process that @pgamboa assisted with where I took my factory cloth seats out of my LT crew cab and put newer leather seats with heat and seat memory.  Phil sent me his wiring harness to by pass the seat memory (I still have the airbag light) and Phil indicates that even though I now have the bezel with the heated seat switches and my wires for heated seats were behind my factory non heat bezel, they don't work.  Can I send my off to get the module reprogrammed by one of our recommended companies and then have my dealer re program the MSM under my seat to show the power seat on the passenger side?  Right now, I now have leather and these shiny buttons that don't work for heated seats, but no heat and an airbag light.  Looking for recommendations on if I should just get after market seat heaters and switches or can I just have someone program my heated seat assembly.  Thanks all!

Allow me to add to this.

 

There is a LIN Bus Circuit (if I recall, is LIN  Bus #2) that is NOT enabled in the BCM.  This is the communication signal that the BCM uses to communicate to the Heat/Cooled module under the passenger seat.  So even after adding ALL the wiring for that, it still didn't work for a truck that i worked on.  I inquired with GTPRix at WAMS about sending the BCM off to have this enabled but ran out of time I had with the truck.  I don't know if I will have another opportunity to retry this or if the schedules with WAMS will align with that opportunity (if it ever presents itself).

 

Let's talk about the MSM (Memory Seat Module).  I was able to successfully retrofit this module into my truck...BUT... There is a LOT more to this than simply adding/programming that MSM.  MSM is responsible for Mirror Memory, Seat Memory, Key Fob Fold, Reverse Tilt, Pedal position memory, etc.  There is a LOT of hardware that also needs to be replaced if you want the MSM to fully work and interface.

 

Door Harnesses, Door Panel Harnesses, New Power Fold Switch, Passenger Window Switch, Pedal Adjust position sensor, Wires need to be removed, wires need to be added.  Rewire of the pedal adjust motor relays, etc.etc....

 

So as you can see, there is more to getting the MSM to fully work.

 

On to the Airbag Light...If you still have your factory seats, take a look on the bottom of the seats.  Along one side fo the rails, there is a sensor.  It is an impact sensor.  It should have a 2-pin connector.  This sensor needs to removed and installed into the new seats.  I don't know why the new seats don't have it, but they need it.  The system is seeing this sensor "missing".  In previous threads, I've comment that this sensor was a Seat Position Sensor.  After closer evaluation, it looks like an impact sensor.  I thought this sensor and the management of this sensor was managed by the MSM, but I could be wrong.  Essentially, the new seats need it.  Hopefully you have the factory seats you can pull them off of.

 

Hope this helps...probably not the response you were looking for.  Just don't want you going further down into the rabbit hole.

 

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Thank you as always, Phil.  I will check out my factory seats, I still have them.  When you helped my son with your harness, I don't know if he maybe didn't see that when he installed them, it's possible.  I think the only thing out of this that I am missing is just the heat.  The guy I bought them from has the door panels that have the MSM built in, I am buying those and going to put them in to at least match what I have.  The interior of my truck is the Cocoa Dune and the seats are the black leather and carbon fiber with red stitching (he said from a Black Ops edition?) and he has the door panels for me to match.  I have the drivers door panel that has the seat memory already, and was going to switch it out from my factory one.  Will this just give me a pretty matching panel only?  Thanks again, and sorry if this is repetitive, theirs so many moving pieces it seems.  If the heat portion (not the MSM) is easier for me to just get an after market seat heater and switch, I might go that route if a module can't be programmed to recognize the switches and heat that already lives in the seat heaters!

 

Thanks,

Randall

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hi everyone I'm new to the page!

I'm in the same boat unfortunately with my 2015 Silverado and to make matters worse I have already purchased the heated seats!

kind of spare the moment deal! I came across them without properly doing my research. I have a 2015 Z71 cloth non heated seats. I purchased I believe LTZ or high country heated seats (pretty positive they are not cooled) but does anyone know if the jump seat is able to be replaced with the center console? The center console was included in the deal as well so maybe it wont be a total loss?

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1 hour ago, jherrera said:

hi everyone I'm new to the page!

I'm in the same boat unfortunately with my 2015 Silverado and to make matters worse I have already purchased the heated seats!

kind of spare the moment deal! I came across them without properly doing my research. I have a 2015 Z71 cloth non heated seats. I purchased I believe LTZ or high country heated seats (pretty positive they are not cooled) but does anyone know if the jump seat is able to be replaced with the center console? The center console was included in the deal as well so maybe it wont be a total loss?

Yep, here is the link to the information you are looking for. 

 

  • 6 months later...
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Hey guys, I'm glad I found this site, what a wealth of info!

 

I had aftermarket seat heaters and switches put in my 2017 Silverado, and they work well, and my question is this...is there a way to wire them so that they come on when the truck is started remotely? My Avalanche had OEM heaters which worked this way, and it was REALLY nice on those real cold mornings! Thanks for any help.

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I have a 2007 GMC 2500 w cloth power seat,  Has anyone installed the heated/cooled seats  by not using the gm controls, but just wiring direct to the seat harness wiring?   I have a seat set from a 2013 Denali and if someone has already figured out all the hookup it would be helpful

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