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[M1ck3y]

11 minutes ago, customboss said:

OK so how does that change PCV system on every GM gasoline engine since 1967? 

 

I think where we disagree ( best I can tell from your commentary)  is that the venting you describe is still not raw air from atmosphere and when you fire the engine the air coming into the combustion chamber will be super dried from that combustion event.  If it has some form of cyclonic separation or directional turn or vent deflector no GM engineer will keep his job sucking untreated air into system, from any of the vents you mention.  

 

I have no idea what your talking about. You obviously know what your talking about but I don't think you've actually visually looked at what GM has done here. On paper, or hands on it doesn't matter. Once you see how simple it is, it will make sense.

[customboss]

No Sir, I am here to learn because I AM NOT A GM EXPERT.  Get past your panties being wadded up and inform us. Man up, woman up, cisgender up? 

 

I don't know what to say, defend your position if its correct. I want to know FACTS not your opinion.  I like to act on facts for my cars. 

 

[customboss]

1 minute ago, M1ck3y said:

 

I have no idea what your talking about. You obviously know what your talking about but I don't think you've actually visually looked at what GM has done here. On paper, or hands on it doesn't matter. Once you see how simple it is, it will make sense.

Show us. Quit whining. 

[M1ck3y]

1 minute ago, customboss said:

Show us. Quit whining. 

 

Show what? I've done my best to attempt an explanation and I think because your knowledgable on this subject your just over thinking it.

[customboss]

1 minute ago, M1ck3y said:

 

Show what? I've done my best to attempt an explanation and I think because your knowledgable on this subject your just over thinking it.

Show us the diagrams that show unfiltered, un-conditioned ambient air entering the engine anywhere by design. 

 

The exhaust system holds condensate air thats unfiltered and on start you see that but its not the same as your claim that our crankcase systems on modern GM spark gasoline engines are not Positive crankcase vented.  

 

I'm not from Missouri but show me.  Seriously. 

[M1ck3y]

5 minutes ago, customboss said:

Show us the diagrams that show unfiltered, un-conditioned ambient air entering the engine anywhere by design. 

 

The exhaust system holds condensate air thats unfiltered and on start you see that but its not the same as your claim that our crankcase systems on modern GM spark gasoline engines are not Positive crankcase vented.  

 

I'm not from Missouri but show me.  Seriously. 

 

This isn't stuff I just have saved on my computer. 

 

Do the leg work. I did my own research on the subject. There's plenty of articles out there where gm talked about engine functionality, to tsbs, to cutaway engine models etc. 

 

I'm sorry to say, but this is old news. In no shape or form is this knowledge a secret that I've just released on the world. Lol

[M1ck3y]

@CamGTP

 

I don't care who's right. But the correct facts should be shared. Care to chime in?

[customboss]

4 minutes ago, M1ck3y said:

 

This isn't stuff I just have saved on my computer. 

 

Do the leg work. I did my own research on the subject. There's plenty of articles out there where gm talked about engine functionality, to tsbs, to cutaway engine models etc. 

 

I'm sorry to say, but this is old news. In no shape or form is this knowledge a secret that I've just released on the world. Lol

Here's the problem; you are making claims that are unsubstantiated, great for someone selling aftermarket things that may or may not help.   

 

But for the benefit of a reader here blasting through who wants to believe you, might wrongly  agree with.

 

Sadly you are wrong and as I can I will pull up the intake and emissions vent systems you wrote about and post them here as I can.  Specifically for a 2017 6.2L. 

 

Not because I want to win or I am insecure  but because having done automotive science for 42 years professionally I am tired of regular consumers being lied to and smoke being blown up their "tail pipes".  

 

You are a weak defender of "your truth"  my friend.   Selfish too when it comes to being open and honest about something that could help other readers here.  

 

You are smart enough to do better than that. I am beginning to see why old farts here blow gaskets with folks who spout but cannot assure with facts. 

 

 

[Gangly]

Here is the pcv hose running from the valve cover to the intake tract.  I believe Mickey is saying that because there is no valve within the hose, or on either end of the hose, that there is a direct avenue for ambient air to progress from the pre-manifold intake tract, to the crank case.

[shakenfake]

@customboss really said there is EGR on these trucks and then expects us to believe him lolololololol

Edited December 13, 2021 by shakenfake

[M1ck3y]

21 minutes ago, customboss said:

Here's the problem; you are making claims that are unsubstantiated, great for someone selling aftermarket things that may or may not help.   

 

But for the benefit of a reader here blasting through who wants to believe you, might wrongly  agree with.

 

Sadly you are wrong and as I can I will pull up the intake and emissions vent systems you wrote about and post them here as I can.  Specifically for a 2017 6.2L. 

 

Not because I want to win or I am insecure  but because having done automotive science for 42 years professionally I am tired of regular consumers being lied to and smoke being blown up their "tail pipes".  

 

You are a weak defender of "your truth"  my friend.   Selfish too when it comes to being open and honest about something that could help other readers here.  

 

You are smart enough to do better than that. I am beginning to see why old farts here blow gaskets with folks who spout but cannot assure with facts. 

 

 

 

Wow... Yes I am wrong. You can die happy now knowing you're a champion. 

 

You say this is about information. But your post and their context point hostility directly towards me. You need to your facts straight before sharing what you think is fact.

 

3 minutes ago, Gangly said:

Here is the pcv hose running from the valve cover to the intake tract.  I believe Mickey is saying that because there is no valve within the hose, or on either end of the hose, that there is a direct avenue for ambient air to progress from the pre-manifold intake tract, to the crank case.

 

Exactly. But it doesn't matter what I say. He's made this personal...

Edited December 13, 2021 by M1ck3y

[customboss]

6 minutes ago, Gangly said:

Here is the pcv hose running from the valve cover to the intake tract.  I believe Mickey is saying that because there is no valve within the hose, or on either end of the hose, that there is a direct avenue for ambient air to progress from the pre-manifold intake tract, to the crank case.

Not unfiltered to environment. 

[customboss]

6 minutes ago, shakenfake said:

@customboss really said there is EGR on these trucks and then expects us to believe him lolololololol

EGR is accomplished by valve-train, VVT, cam phasing etc. Solenoid  controlled.  You can't meet emissions with no EGR system.  

[M1ck3y]

2 minutes ago, customboss said:

EGR is accomplished by valve-train, VVT, cam phasing etc. Solenoid  controlled.  You can't meet emissions with no EGR system.  

 

Sure, you can absolute reduce emissions through tuning. But there is no egr system. It's not a diesel it has cats.

[M1ck3y]

6 minutes ago, customboss said:

Not unfiltered to environment. 

 

It's Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It gets reintroduced to the combustion chamber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!