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Ok so I had an issue with my truck. I had a lower ball joint fail and brake at 65 mph luckily the tire pinned to the finder keeping the truck suspension off the ground for the most part. I ripped the axel apart bent the inner tie rod, toasted the bearing, and pulled the upper ball joint out of socket. Now I have replaced everything ( upper and lower ball joints, inner and outer tie rods bearings hub and axles). Got it all finished today and the tires back on. Now I have a new issue and I am lost. My toe is way out. I am lost. I have the passanger side almost straight but the driver side is way out. The problem is I have no more adjustment left in the tie rod they are pulled all the way in. I don't know what to check or even where to go now. I need my truck back soon and now I am lost. Any help would be great

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Is the pitman arm/steering wheel centered and the passenger wheel pointed straight?

Are the mounts for the upper and/or lower control arms , or the control arms themselves or even the frame around them bent?

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It's also possible that the control arms themselves have been deformed to where they no longer align properly.

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I could see it being the control arms if it wasn't on both sides. When I pulled the passenger side apart I marked the alignment on the tie rod so I could set the new one close to where it was before. When I got the tie rod st in place where the old one was the tire was toed way out. So I toed it in now I have no adjustments left.

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6 hours ago, davester said:

Is the pitman arm/steering wheel centered and the passenger wheel pointed straight?

Are the mounts for the upper and/or lower control arms , or the control arms themselves or even the frame around them bent?

If I had it set to the original alignment marks the tires are not straight if the wheel is straight neither one both of them are towed out big time

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Not saying that it isn't, but usually with a bent center link, you'd have too much toe-in, not out. I'd be looking a lot more closely at your control arms especially with all the torque placed on them from losing a balljoint at that speed. Also, if you have your old tie rods, compare them closely to your new ones in case you accidentally got handed the wrong ones (I've gotten some before that were longer). Once you confirm that, straighten your steering wheel and lock it down. Focus on the passenger side and get it as close as you can. Now you've isolated the driver side and can look closely at everything to see what's going on. 

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47 minutes ago, Jglew82 said:

Not saying that it isn't, but usually with a bent center link, you'd have too much toe-in, not out. I'd be looking a lot more closely at your control arms especially with all the torque placed on them from losing a balljoint at that speed. Also, if you have your old tie rods, compare them closely to your new ones in case you accidentally got handed the wrong ones (I've gotten some before that were longer). Once you confirm that, straighten your steering wheel and lock it down. Focus on the passenger side and get it as close as you can. Now you've isolated the driver side and can look closely at everything to see what's going on. 

I checked all parts with the old one's to make sure because I know at times you can get a wrong part. As far as when this all happened the crazy thing is the steering wheel stayed straight even though it bent the driver side tie rod backwards the passenger wheel never turned I have both upper control arms off to check and see if they both matched up due to the pressure I wanted to make sure that the control arm itself didn't get bent they both match up Dam Square

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What about the lower? Judging by your picture, it looks like a lot of rearward force to the lower arm, and possibly the knuckle. 

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5 minutes ago, Jglew82 said:

What about the lower? Judging by your picture, it looks like a lot of rearward force to the lower arm, and possibly the knuckle. 

The lower is the one that snapped off I will look at it when I get home. One thing I did notice was the Pittman arm has alot of pay in it.

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