Coronavirus

KARNUT · April 7, 2020

I'm with you on that approach, especially when a vaccine is nowhere in sight. The only thing to fear is fear itself. Less than 1% are dying. We have never made such drastic decision based on such a low %. We take greater risks in everything we do every single day. Life has never been and will never be without risk. We do know that the economic consequences are real and will be with us for years to come.

Most of my family is working that was working before. One hair dresser isn’t. A couple school teachers aren’t. The real estate sales people, shop owners, oil field inspections, equipment sellers are. Except for going out for lunch business as usual. And less traffic.

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Bob2C · April 7, 2020

I'm a numbers guy Bob not an infectious disease doctor but logic says that we need it to die, find a vaccine for it, or a cure. The last two will take awhile. The first comes when something interrupts its ability to replicate. It needs a host to do that as I understand.

I hear ya. I think people are getting too optimistic about returning things to normal. Look at the stock market. Wtf. Almost every business is closed and it continues marching higher. Something is out of balance.

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Grumpy Bear · April 7, 2020

12 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’m from the let it rip camp. I’m bold enough to say that. The reason. Isolate the weak and old. We saw with New York what our government can do in a pinch. New Orleans did the same as New York and now the government is helping them out. Seeing that the rest of us would take precautions. The run on groceries wouldn’t have happened. Our economy wouldn’t have suffered nearly as much. Where did the spring breakers go? Who are they infecting? Their parents, grandparents? What about herd immunity? I don’t believe hiding will do much but prolong this bug. I’m close to the Houston area. I be able to see how the hiding is going to work or not. I think more people have been infected than the sick. We’ll see.

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You say that but your aren't really. Your still isolating populations.

KARNUT · April 7, 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

This is what "let it rip' looks like.

Let it rip looks like New York until the end of this week. New Orleans the next two.

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graystonelbz · April 7, 2020

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Most of my family is working that was working before. One hair dresser isn’t. A couple school teachers aren’t. The real estate sales people, shop owners, oil field inspections, equipment sellers are. Except for going out for lunch business as usual. And less traffic.

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None of those occupations are taking place in MN, probably because of the Dem Governor, politics as usual. Like I said lawn maintaince companies can't even cut grass or spread mulch. Meanwhile everyone in the communities are all funneled to a small handful of places that are deemed essential. Not sure how that makes any kind of sense.

KARNUT · April 7, 2020

You say that but your aren't really. Your still isolating populations.

I haven’t hug my mother for the last three weeks, I sit outside to visit. Let it rip can be responsible, cautious, responsible. I have faith in the masses to a degree. I can wear a mask and sanitize my hands. Look I respect your position. I believe this is a bad flu, really bad. Not Armageddon.

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graystonelbz · April 7, 2020

Anyone comparing events of today to events 670 years ago is completely out of touch with reality.

Grumpy Bear · April 7, 2020

5 minutes ago, Bob2C said:

I hear ya. I think people are getting too optimistic about returning things to normal. Look at the stock market. Wtf. Almost every business is closed and it continues marching higher. Something is out of balance.

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Since this site allowed advert's I've noticed the shameless greed of those attempting to profit from this thing. Some are honestly trying to help but most are just wrapping greed in fancy "I care' paper.

Grumpy Bear · April 7, 2020

2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I haven’t hug my mother for the last three weeks, I sit outside to visit. Let it rip can be responsible, cautious, responsible. I have faith in the masses to a degree. I can wear a mask and sanitize my hands. Look I respect your position. I believe this is a bad flu, really bad. Not Armageddon.

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I don't think it's Armageddon either. I mean than literally too.

KARNUT · April 7, 2020

None of those occupations are taking place in MN, probably because of the Dem Governor, politics as usual. Like I said lawn maintaince companies can't even cut grass or spread mulch. Meanwhile everyone in the communities are all funneled to a small handful of places that are deemed essential. Not sure how that makes any kind of sense.

WOW, that wouldn’t fly in Texas, there’s a little common sense left.

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graystonelbz · April 7, 2020

11 minutes ago, Bob2C said:

I hear ya. I think people are getting too optimistic about returning things to normal. Look at the stock market. Wtf. Almost every business is closed and it continues marching higher. Something is out of balance.

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Exactly and with no business that means no jobs to return to, no way to feed or take care of families. Why would you be surprised the market is tanking when no one is able to do business? That's how this all works, and that's why we need to get back to life to attempt to salvage what we can ASAP. Next will be rioting in the streets and death by violence. This is what drives people to do extreme things. Unfortunately sitting in a cave reading a bible isn't going to resolve any of this.

graystonelbz · April 7, 2020

7 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

WOW, that wouldn’t fly in Texas, there’s a little common sense left.

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and the more disturbing part is MN was never projected to have any sort of problem like NY. We have 1069 cases of covid in the state and 549 have been recovered/resolved.

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Bob2C · April 7, 2020

Exactly and with no business that means no jobs to return to, no way to feed or take care of families. Why would you be surprised the market is tanking when no one is able to do business? That's how this all works, and that's why we need to get back to life to attempt to salvage what we can ASAP. Next will be rioting in the streets and death by violence. This is what drives people to do extreme things. Unfortunately sitting in a cave reading a bible isn't going to resolve any of this.

The problem is the market is not tanking. It’s doing the opposite. I just don’t get it.

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KARNUT · April 7, 2020

The problem is the market is not tanking. It’s doing the opposite. I just don’t get it.

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It hit bottom. Any good news will make rise. Remember where it was prior? It has a ways to go. It will drop with the next jobs numbers.

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graystonelbz · April 7, 2020

4 minutes ago, Bob2C said:

The problem is the market is not tanking. It’s doing the opposite. I just don’t get it.

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It's because things have started to flatten out in NY other parts of the world and activity is anticipated to resume again. I also believe that the inflated models that have been corrected everyday are much less frightening than originally thought.