Drone on new 2020s?

[TNTSierra]

Why not just buy a full cat back and not hodge podge or hack up exhaust and then still have drone. I mean you’re already buying a $45k+ truck. What’s another $1500???  Make it sound and run awesome without the drone?  Just my 2 cents. I saved up and bought a full Corsa cat back and haven’t had any regrets. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by TNTSilverado

[Rob Mugs]

23 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Why not just buy a full cat back and not hodge podge or hack up exhaust and then still have drone. I mean you’re already buying a $45k+ truck. What’s another $1500???  Make it sound and run awesome without the drone?  Just my 2 cents. I saved up and bought a full Corsa cat back and haven’t had any regrets. 

Get where you're going there but some of us have fairly firm budgets.  I'm going to mess around (unless I can find a used catback) for now.  I can always slap the stock back in or try a different muffler until I have that extra 1500 laying around.

[TNTSierra]

Just now, Rob Mugs said:

Get where you're going there but some of us have fairly firm budgets.  I'm going to mess around (unless I can find a used catback) for now.  I can always slap the stock back in or try a different muffler until I have that extra 1500 laying around.

Understandable.  If you look at the price of truck compared to a cat back exhaust. It’s quite small. 

[Rob Mugs]

2 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Understandable.  If you look at the price of truck compared to a cat back exhaust. It’s quite small. 

Apples to apples

 

Both a flapper and muffler delete/freer flowing muffler will get the HP gains.  So, here, we're really only comparing the "sound" of the exhaust.  The difference in 1,200-1,300 when you think about it that way, is pretty hard to swallow if the vehicle has put a substantial dent in your wallet.  We could go back and forth with "they should have bought a cheaper, used truck" but that's not the point.  Apples to apples, a full catback will net you very little HP gains, compared to a flapper delete and muffler swap; it's all about the sound here.

 

That 1,200-1,300 difference might sound like a  drop in the bucket for a 60k truck until you add in other similarly categorized things like, window tint, a CAI, Off road lights, Kicker subwoofer add-on, etc... things with more show than go...but different strokes.  Some might want to spend their money elsewhere on the truck or simply not have the money but want that little extra grumble.  I digress though, this could all have been fixed if GM had spent just a little more time tuning their exhaust.  It's so quiet, it's hard to tell it's running inside.  A sporty truck should not sound like your grandfather's Buick

[OnTheReel]

Here in the salt I find a quality 304 stainless catback to be a good investment. Especially if you plan to keep the truck 5+ years. I have done plenty of simple muffler swaps in the past and it’s not long before stuff starts rusting and looks like ass.
 

I buy new trucks to avoid that crap. But if a muffler delete or swap can be done cleanly and with quality parts, I don’t see a problem. That is, aside from the trial and error involved to avoid drone.

[BluegrassMotorsport]

On 11/15/2020 at 3:17 PM, TNTSilverado said:

Why not just buy a full cat back and not hodge podge or hack up exhaust and then still have drone. I mean you’re already buying a $45k+ truck. What’s another $1500???  Make it sound and run awesome without the drone?  Just my 2 cents. I saved up and bought a full Corsa cat back and haven’t had any regrets. 

After spending $75 on my muffler delete, I can't imagine spending $1500+ on a full system. That's money I could be spending on my Vette instead, or saving, or paying my truck off earlier, or dumping into my supplemental retirement plan, etc. Different strokes for different folks.  

[TNTSierra]

1 minute ago, BluegrassMotorsport said:

After spending $75 on my muffler delete, I can't imagine spending $1500+ on a full system. That's money I could be spending on my Vette instead, or saving, or paying my truck off earlier, or dumping into my supplemental retirement plan, etc. Different strokes for different folks.  

True. But I know the 304 stainless will hold up and is backed by lifetime warranty. What’s the difference if your spending it on your vette or your truck??

I don’t have a vette. I have a boat and I am also dropping a 350 mag mpi into this winter. I want more power and speed! To each their own.

I truly love the throaty exhaust sound this truck has. The fit and finish is also very nice. I won’t ever have to worry about it rusting out. Here in Midwest the salts and other cr@p they put on these roads, eat away at welds like no other. I have ZERO drone. Can you honestly say you have zero drone??  

I wish I could upload my startup but it won’t let me here on the site. Says file is too big. 
Again I’m not bashing, I’m just a very fickle person and like to have my stuff done right the first time. Just the way I am made.

I also detail vehicles as a side job and I don’t half@$$ doing that either. This also pays for all of my upgrades.  I see it as free spending money for my toys. I’ve never spent money on any of my vehicles from my regular job. 
Take care and be safe. 

[Black02Silverado]

1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:

Here in the salt I find a quality 304 stainless catback to be a good investment. Especially if you plan to keep the truck 5+ years. I have done plenty of simple muffler swaps in the past and it’s not long before stuff starts rusting and looks like ass.
 

I buy new trucks to avoid that crap. But if a muffler delete or swap can be done cleanly and with quality parts, I don’t see a problem. That is, aside from the trial and error involved to avoid drone.

I'm not in a salt state but on my 2002 Silverado. I put a flowmaster on it when I got it new and  had to get a new one at 100k miles and then that one rusted out at 160k miles. So from there on out I went stainless steel.  The rest of the factory exhaust was in great shape.  Just the aluminized Flowmasters rusted out from the inside.

[OnTheReel]

25 minutes ago, TNTSilverado said:

I have a boat and I am also dropping a 350 mag mpi into this winter. I want more power and speed! To each their own.

Nice, you'll love the 350 MAG MPI. I had a pair in my old boat. Bulletproof, but thirsty bastards. Better than carb-ed but not by much. I’m an outboard guy now but I do miss the soundtrack. Loved their little idle lope, there’s nothing like a good tree-fiddy. 

[TNTSierra]

Just now, OnTheReel said:

Nice, you'll love the 350 MAG MPI. I had a pair in my old boat. Bulletproof, but thirsty bastards. Better than carb-ed but not by much. I’m an outboard guy now but I do miss the soundtrack. Loved their little idle lope, there’s nothing like a good tree-fiddy. 

Awe!!!  I likey.  Nice setup. Especially twin 350s. I bet that boat screamed and sounded mean doing it.
Yes. My father is big fisher man and loves the outboards, especially the maintenance and winterizing of them.  super easy.
Me, I still prefer the inboard, the kids, wife and I love tubing and skiing still. I can see myself in 10 years getting a tritoon with twin 400s on it.  Heck by then mercury will probably have a 1000 hp outboard by then.

[OnTheReel]

4 minutes ago, TNTSilverado said:

Awe!!!  I likey.  Nice setup. Especially twin 350s. I bet that boat screamed and sounded mean doing it.
Yes. My father is big fisher man and loves the outboards, especially the maintenance and winterizing of them.  super easy.
Me, I still prefer the inboard, the kids, wife and I love tubing and skiing still. I can see myself in 10 years getting a tritoon with twin 400s on it.  Heck by then mercury will probably have a 1000 hp outboard by then.

Yeah. The I6 Verados are cool and all, but their new ProXS V8s with sport mode exhaust...they make all the right noises. Think they top out at *just* 300hp though. Also way too expensive for me anyway! 

[TNTSierra]

2 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Yeah. The I6 Verados are cool and all, but their new ProXS V8s with sport mode exhaust...they make all the right noises. Think they top out at *just* 300hp though. Also way too expensive for me anyway! 

They make a 400 now in the Verado.  A buddy of mine has a Regency tritoon with a  Verado supercharged 350 Hp on it. Sounds very nice. I like that little charger whine!

http://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/verado/250-400-hp/

 

and yes the ProXS tops out at 300 hp with a 4.6L v8. Haven’t heard one of them. Would love to from the sound of it. 

and yes the difference from inboard motor swap compared to an outboard is out right highway robbery!!  Those outboards go for crazy cash. $100 per HP is going rate. 

 

 

 

 

[SILVER SLED]

Mercury also make a 4.6 supercharged V8 at 450 hp.  It’s a Mercury racing motor.   It seems like there is a lot more potential for more horsepower in that motor, but with the next closest competitor being a Yamaha at 425 hp that’s enough for now.  

[SILVER SLED]

Of course there is 7marine.  

https://www.seven-marine.com/motors/seven-627sv/

 

[OnTheReel]

And only 90k a piece.

 

If I had money for those I’d probably skip right over them and rig up a cig boat with the Merc QC4Vs at 1750hp a piece instead. Have to overhaul them every 25 hours but who cares.

Edited November 17, 2020 by OnTheReel