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2022 Chevy Silverado LT with 3" level causing surround view, trailer, parking grid cameras to malfunction, not calibrate correctly


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We put 35" Maxxis tires with 22" Fuel wheels on my 2022 Silverado LT with the new, refreshed dash. This required a 3" front and 1" back level. We started having issues with the cameras calibrating after about 6 months. Basically, the system can't calibrate the distance properly so it gives you an hourglass in the upper left hand corner of the screen showing the system is "working", a nice throwback to the microsoft busy icon . This leaves you with no grid lines for parking and no trailer assist. The dealership replaced the front camera and recalibrated the cameras. After working for two weeks, the issues started up again. 

 

Email from GM engineer to dealership stated that the software only allows for 2" of extra distance over stock ride height for the cameras to calibrate so there was nothing we could do and would be left with a dysfunctional system.

 

There are new Black Widow package trucks out there with a 6" lift that have zero camera issues. The reason why is that Black Widow had to develop their own software in coordination with GM to overcome this seemingly simple issue. GM knows their trucks are going to be lifted. They even offer the 2" lift from the factory on some of the packages. So why not just include this extra distance to compensate for this in the software instead of pissing off people who paid for and really just want their truck to function properly. Black Widow won't sell the software and GM won't offer it as a patch. So, in order for your Silverado/Sierra to function properly, you need the $20k black widow package...

 

A bigger issue I see is the safety of the vehicle. Should I trust the adaptive cruise and lane keep assist to work properly if the software doesn't even know how to calculate the distance for some parking grid lines?

 

Does anyone know of software out there that has been developed by third parties to overcome the camera calibration issue?

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Unless you can find a company that knows how to do it your SOL. GM isn't going to spend the man hours and costs with doing calibrations for every possible combination of lifts and levels. 

  • 2 weeks later...
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On 10/6/2023 at 9:07 PM, jaxcam02 said:

Unless you can find a company that knows how to do it your SOL. GM isn't going to spend the man hours and costs with doing calibrations for every possible combination of lifts and levels. 

There isn't an infinite number of combinations required, it is a static distance from the ground to the cameras. It is an algorithm to calculate the distance and compensate for additional height.

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On 10/6/2023 at 1:21 PM, 2022LT said:

We put 35" Maxxis tires with 22" Fuel wheels on my 2022 Silverado LT with the new, refreshed dash. This required a 3" front and 1" back level. We started having issues with the cameras calibrating after about 6 months. Basically, the system can't calibrate the distance properly so it gives you an hourglass in the upper left hand corner of the screen showing the system is "working", a nice throwback to the microsoft busy icon . This leaves you with no grid lines for parking and no trailer assist. The dealership replaced the front camera and recalibrated the cameras. After working for two weeks, the issues started up again. 

 

Email from GM engineer to dealership stated that the software only allows for 2" of extra distance over stock ride height for the cameras to calibrate so there was nothing we could do and would be left with a dysfunctional system.

 

There are new Black Widow package trucks out there with a 6" lift that have zero camera issues. The reason why is that Black Widow had to develop their own software in coordination with GM to overcome this seemingly simple issue. GM knows their trucks are going to be lifted. They even offer the 2" lift from the factory on some of the packages. So why not just include this extra distance to compensate for this in the software instead of pissing off people who paid for and really just want their truck to function properly. Black Widow won't sell the software and GM won't offer it as a patch. So, in order for your Silverado/Sierra to function properly, you need the $20k black widow package...

 

A bigger issue I see is the safety of the vehicle. Should I trust the adaptive cruise and lane keep assist to work properly if the software doesn't even know how to calculate the distance for some parking grid lines?

 

Does anyone know of software out there that has been developed by third parties to overcome the camera calibration issue?

 

 

 

 

 

GM won't be of any help here as they don't offer calibrations that comply with aftermarket modifications.  None of the issues you are having should even be covered under warranty either because of the aftermarket modifications and the dealer should have stopped right then and there when you pulled up.  Mods that are not GM that cause issue are grounds for warranty block.    

 

The only compliant lift that GM can help with is the factory Trail Boss lift kit as it has authorizations for camera calibrations.  

 

The other problem you are facing is the tire diameter.  The assist systems are dependent on the proper tire size based on the calibrations in the systems.  GM only has calibrations for factory tire sizes and the new trucks on GM Global B are very sensitive to this.  

 

TLDR:  Remove the lift.  Problem solved.

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On 10/19/2023 at 1:40 PM, 2022LT said:

There isn't an infinite number of combinations required, it is a static distance from the ground to the cameras. It is an algorithm to calculate the distance and compensate for additional height.

It's more complicated than that but you are kind of right.

It's really only X,Y,Z, roll, pitch, yaw that can be tweaked and likely it's just the Z to adjust on some of the cameras (not equally but close) but GM and their software will not let anyone touch these directly, like ever.

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19 minutes ago, matt99199 said:

It's more complicated than that but you are kind of right.

It's really only X,Y,Z, roll, pitch, yaw that can be tweaked and likely it's just the Z to adjust on some of the cameras (not equally but close) but GM and their software will not let anyone touch these directly, like ever.

Actually I'll be damned, someone actually offers a service to reprogram your VPM.

I imagine they could tweak these settings.

Not cheap but probably not many options for this niche.

https://www.whiteautoandmedia.com/product/t1-pickup-vpm-programming/

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We'll take a look at that. This is the refreshed dash with the new layout so it's hard to find anyone that is doing any software mods. Hoping to find a fix so we can get everything working as it should.

  • 5 months later...
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Hello I currently have the same issue i put a 8 inch suspension 22 rims whit 37 tires and I guess i have to release the its not gonna get fix it? Have you find how to fix yours? 

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Modifications on current model trucks have way more factors to consider than before. 

While I understand the issue I cant see how its GM's problem when something is modified beyond their design parameters ?   Its not 1978 anymore.  GM is hypersensitive to modifications causing warranty claims, dont expect that to change. 

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