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2022 1500 Denali

Are there known issues with excessive inner tire wear? 23k miles and all 4 (from rotating) inner edges are worn significantly more than the rest of the tire. Dealer just checked it out and says all good, it’s just how these trucks and tires (Goodyear) are. But then suggested an alignment when I get new tires? 🤔

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10 minutes ago, 22 Denali said:

2022 1500 Denali

Are there known issues with excessive inner tire wear? 23k miles and all 4 (from rotating) inner edges are worn significantly more than the rest of the tire. Dealer just checked it out and says all good, it’s just how these trucks and tires (Goodyear) are. But then suggested an alignment when I get new tires? 🤔

 

 

Did they bother to check the alignment?  

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Whether it is a dealer or independent shop, most reputable alignment techs and the machines they use can print off the before and after toe, camber etc and be able to explain it to you in plain English.  if not, go somewhere else who will.

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TheRiver Enthusiast

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I'm truly amazed at all the folks that just blindly abide by what the "stealer service thieves" tell them!!!

 

And then when they drive off the lot and the issue resurfaces....................they go back again!!!!

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Too much negative camber. And, maybe low tire pressures that make it worse. The tires on these trucks aren't tucked way out of sight to where you can't easily inspect them like a Corvette. This should be noticed long before the tires are "ruined". GM has ranges to set the camber and a good suspension tech should be able to see they need to set up this situation at the positive camber side of the range. 

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Here we go again. 

 

1 hour ago, silveradosid said:

i have the same problem, dealer print out shows everything in spec. i have had 3 alignments done and no one seems to get it correct. second set of tires ruined

 

Brother of another mother. You know this. There is "In spec" and then there is "On spec" alignments. The sharp customer sets the expectations. Not the dealer. You pay them to do a job. Insist they do it. I even have "Grump spec" alignments for problem children. Get those tires stood up and pointing forward. 

 

I tell them walking in the in spec/on spec tale and say, "We are going to put it on the rack, inspect for worn items and get a before printout. We fix what needs fixing. Then I'll tell you what numbers I want and then you will tell me if you can do what I ask or not before we even put it on the rack and afterwards, we get an after printout. Don't get what I ask for and you don't get paid". "You can or you can't, you will, or you won't, what are we doing today". They give me the "I'm the expert speech and he won't finish before I'm out of there. 

 

Any reputable shop will even let you watch the final so you can be sure no one was hanging off the frame to get the number. :crackup:

 

Guy has to manage his own expectations as well. A/T and Mudder tires just wear odd. Too much block squirm. Round edge tires were better than square shouldered and work better in the wet. :) 

 

PS: it's often the toe. 

 

 

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After insisting they put it back on the rack and do an alignment, the RF was found to have .24 degrees of negative toe. This was corrected. Now, I have about 5k left in these tires. When I get new tires, is another alignment needed?

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1 minute ago, 22 Denali said:

Update

After insisting they put it back on the rack and do an alignment, the RF was found to have .24 degrees of negative toe. This was corrected. Now, I have about 5k left in these tires. When I get new tires, is another alignment needed?

Yes, an alignment is recommended any time new tires or suspension parts are installed, even if the tires or parts are identical to the ones being replaced.

newdude Senior Enthusiast

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20 minutes ago, 22 Denali said:

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After insisting they put it back on the rack and do an alignment, the RF was found to have .24 degrees of negative toe. This was corrected. Now, I have about 5k left in these tires. When I get new tires, is another alignment needed?

 

 

At a minimum it should be checked for sure, and then if any adjustment is needed, adjusted.  

 

That negative toe seems like a likely culprit for the inner feather/accelerated wear.  If you had too much negative camber, the whole tire would be worn at an angle across the whole tread.  

 

Unless the roads where you live are 100% smooth as glass, it does not hurt to have your alignment checked periodically and adjusted as necessary.  Potholes, you curb a tire, the vehicle ages and components settle, worn bushings, tie rods, ball joints, the list goes on.  Do you have to have it checked every 3000mi?  That would be overkill.  Once a year?  Not a bad idea.  

 

 

The passenger car tires with the various uneven wear patterns [24]. | Download Scientific Diagram

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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On 9/26/2024 at 10:18 AM, 22 Denali said:

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After insisting they put it back on the rack and do an alignment, the RF was found to have .24 degrees of negative toe. This was corrected. Now, I have about 5k left in these tires. When I get new tires, is another alignment needed?

 

Ya got to be your own advocate. Well done. 

 

On 9/26/2024 at 8:32 AM, Grumpy Bear said:

PS: it's often the toe. 

 

Yea........:crackup:Saw that coming a mile away. 😉

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On 9/25/2024 at 9:45 AM, 22 Denali said:

2022 1500 Denali

Are there known issues with excessive inner tire wear? 23k miles and all 4 (from rotating) inner edges are worn significantly more than the rest of the tire. Dealer just checked it out and says all good, it’s just how these trucks and tires (Goodyear) are. But then suggested an alignment when I get new tires? 🤔

 

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I'm literally dealing with the exact same thing. My tire has 38,000kms on it and has less than 3% tread left. The dealership couldn't replace a hole in the tire because it's so worn. 

 

 

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