CAFE Gone?

[Atlas]

8 hours ago, KARNUT said:

No just the facts. But hey in joy you’re make believe. I’m still waiting for the ice age, global warming, climate change, raising water, moving coast line and the shot will keep Covid away. 

 

And I'm still waiting for any sign of restored greatness from those who blame the government for their position in life. But here we are.

[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

 

And I'm still waiting for any sign of restored greatness from those who blame the government for their position in life. But here we are.

We’re self made. Rolled with the punches. When NJ became too regulated we moved to Texas and built a thriving business. I retired from that family business at 58. The third generation is running currently. The great thing about this country is you don’t like your area you can move. I have no complaints living in Texas. Nothing better. 

[MTU Alum]

On 9/29/2025 at 9:13 PM, swathdiver said:

 

CAFE is gone, doesn't exist.  There are no emissions standards to take 36 months to execute anymore.

 

The phony Endangerment Finding will be gone soon too.

 

A new administration cannot undo these changes, they are being cemented in place with legislation that requires a super majority vote in both houses to pass.

 

Liberty over Tyranny!

 

Cafe still exists but the fines are zero currently as the EPA is bringing a new proposal to automakers.  Its likely a rollback to 2020 standards with 1% year over year improvements.  

 

Endangerment is going to be stuck in the courts for a while.  

 

I don't see anyway of getting a super majority.  You have to get 60 votes in the Senate.  Even if you get all 53 Republicans, you are still 7 votes short.  Just not going to happen.  

 

Emissions standards and CAFE are likely not going away.  They maybe relaxed some to allow more v8s, change some of the derate max speeds, dial back future Emissions standards like LEV4 and Tier 4 but there won't be any extreme changes.

[customboss]

13 hours ago, KARNUT said:

We’re self made. Rolled with the punches. When NJ became too regulated we moved to Texas and built a thriving business. I retired from that family business at 58. The third generation is running currently. The great thing about this country is you don’t like your area you can move. I have no complaints living in Texas. Nothing better. 

No man is an island. 

[Atlas]

13 hours ago, KARNUT said:

We’re self made. Rolled with the punches. When NJ became too regulated we moved to Texas and built a thriving business. I retired from that family business at 58. The third generation is running currently. The great thing about this country is you don’t like your area you can move. I have no complaints living in Texas. Nothing better. 

Texas and New Jersey are probably near the bottom of where I’d consider living. Haven’t you seen the rest of the country? Lol

[KARNUT]

6 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Texas and New Jersey are probably near the bottom of where I’d consider living. Haven’t you seen the rest of the country? Lol

I’ve done training in most every state. My equipment is all over the world. I’ve even been in China, just the airport. On the way to Malaysia. Is funny the two states you mentioned are completely opposite of each other. Every other state is in between. So not only most states but out of the country too. Funny though the vastness of Texas could be any other state. With my business I could have lived anywhere. 

[KARNUT]

13 minutes ago, customboss said:

No man is an island. 

Funny answer. I’ve never been alone.

[customboss]

13 hours ago, KARNUT said:

We’re self made

 

Edited October 1, 2025 by customboss

[Atlas]

43 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’ve done training in most every state. My equipment is all over the world. I’ve even been in China, just the airport. On the way to Malaysia. Is funny the two states you mentioned are completely opposite of each other. Every other state is in between. So not only most states but out of the country too. Funny though the vastness of Texas could be any other state. With my business I could have lived anywhere. 

Interesting that you chose Texas, then. But I get it, when choosing to retire you have to choose between desirable places to live, and making limited funds last.

[KARNUT]

8 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Interesting that you chose Texas, then. But I get it, when choosing to retire you have to choose between desirable places to live, and making limited funds last.

WOW. Such condensation. It’s rough but I’m tough.

[customboss]

39 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

WOW. Such condensation. It’s rough but I’m tough.

You’re wet? 

[customboss]

41 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

WOW. Such condensation. It’s rough but I’m tough.

Well!  people like ya too! 
 

Edited October 1, 2025 by customboss

[customboss]

1 hour ago, Atlas said:

Interesting that you chose Texas, then. But I get it, when choosing to retire you have to choose between desirable places to live, and making limited funds last.

Just flew back from Austin. It’s a polluted air dry ass hellscape of crowds and cars. 

[KARNUT]

23 minutes ago, customboss said:

Just flew back from Austin. It’s a polluted air dry ass hellscape of crowds and cars. 

I believed you’d mentioned you have family in Texas. I had family in NJ. I graduated from NJ. We don’t have class reunions there anymore, everyone has left. Most have gone to Florida. Most of my family and some of my wife’s have moved to Texas. Some to Oklahoma. Some of my classmates are my neighbors. So I wonder how many of your family and friends have moved to your utopia? I’m not knocking it like you do mine. But it does make me wonder. I’ll admit there’s three uncomfortable months here. Thank goodness for Ac. The rest are wonderful. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. And yes I’ve sampled the rest. 

Edited October 1, 2025 by KARNUT

[KARNUT]

11 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I believed you’d mentioned you have family in Texas. I had family in NJ. I graduated from NJ. We don’t have class reunions there anymore, everyone has left. Most have gone to Florida. Most of my family and some of my wife’s have moved to Texas. Some to Oklahoma. Some of my classmates are my neighbors. So I wonder how many of your family and friends have moved to your utopia? I’m not knocking it like you do mine. But it does make me wonder. I’ll admit there’s three uncomfortable months here. Thank goodness for Ac. The rest are wonderful. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. And yes I’ve sampled the rest. 

As I look at the title of this thread. I realize it’s gotten off topic. So I’ll leave it here.