Factory Manual

kylant · January 13

my '26 did not. i ordered it from Helm.

it's lame that they don't come with the vehicle anymore. but i would rather look in the book than in the screen

SoCal Angler · January 25

My '23 GMC Sierra 3500 Slightly Less Equipped (SLE) came with one.

newdude · January 25

Some digging on this. 1500s and HDs with the 7 inch radio still come with a hard copy. That was what that whole recall thing was about for these for 2026 MY. IOR trucks that were missing the book.

Anything with the IOK 13 inch radio does not come with a hard copy. So LT, SLE, Elevation, SLT, LTZ, HC, Denali, ZR2, AT4, AT4X.

dieselfan1 · January 25

I don't see what the big deal is.

I'm sure as hell not buying one for $50+ for a paper book that will just sit in the glove box.

I can look at the PDF just easy.

26_CHEV_Silverado_2500_3500_HD_OM_en_US_U_86595931B_2025OCT29_2P.pdf https://share.google/7RW16z3w2YbV5I6nq

Chuck FB · January 25

5 minutes ago, dieselfan1 said:

I don't see what the big deal is.

I'm sure as hell not buying one for $50+ for a paper book that will just sit in the glove box.

I can look at the PDF just easy.

26_CHEV_Silverado_2500_3500_HD_OM_en_US_U_86595931B_2025OCT29_2P.pdf https://share.google/7RW16z3w2YbV5I6nq

If you have a device with you and its saved on it and its battery isn't dead and/or access to the internet while on the road with again a device to connect to the internet and would like to figure something out that the information contained in the manual might help one with. If you always have that access, great but if not then there is no looking at the manual.

Put another way to paint a better picture, earlier this year there was a reason why one of three young ladies was standing in a field beside their car that flew through the ditch into the field because the road was icy and obviously poor driving skills, and the one lady is holding her phone high into the air and could tell from her flapping lips that she was pissed right off because there is zero signal, that is what our cell coverage is like out here in this rural area. Its the same situation driving up to Alaska right on the main highway as in between towns there is often nothing, only a sat phone or now if one has the whole starlink setup and the power to run it that one can have any form of connection that one may be used to having living in a city or in the lower 48.

dieselfan1 · January 25

45 minutes ago, Chuck FB said:

If you have a device with you and its saved on it and its battery isn't dead and/or access to the internet while on the road with again a device to connect to the internet and would like to figure something out that the information contained in the manual might help one with. If you always have that access, great but if not then there is no looking at the manual.

Put another way to paint a better picture, earlier this year there was a reason why one of three young ladies was standing in a field beside their car that flew through the ditch into the field because the road was icy and obviously poor driving skills, and the one lady is holding her phone high into the air and could tell from her flapping lips that she was pissed right off because there is zero signal, that is what our cell coverage is like out here in this rural area. Its the same situation driving up to Alaska right on the main highway as in between towns there is often nothing, only a sat phone or now if one has the whole starlink setup and the power to run it that one can have any form of connection that one may be used to having living in a city or in the lower 48.

What good is an owners manual if you're in the ditch?

dieselfan1 · January 25

Also if I was driving in a remote area like you describe, I would have a Sattelite phone anyways. Cell phones are worthless in a place like that.

Pryme · January 26

3 hours ago, newdude said:

Some digging on this. 1500s and HDs with the 7 inch radio still come with a hard copy. That was what that whole recall thing was about for these for 2026 MY. IOR trucks that were missing the book.

Anything with the IOK 13 inch radio does not come with a hard copy. So LT, SLE, Elevation, SLT, LTZ, HC, Denali, ZR2, AT4, AT4X.

So the base models get a manual and the luxury trucks don’t. That’s actually a tad funny.

another win for poverty edition trucks.

newdude · January 26

1 minute ago, Pryme said:

So the base models get a manual and the luxury trucks don’t. That’s actually a tad funny.

another win for poverty edition trucks.

The base radio doesn't have the capability to have the one built into the radio is why.

MaverickZ71 · January 26

3 hours ago, newdude said:

Some digging on this. 1500s and HDs with the 7 inch radio still come with a hard copy. That was what that whole recall thing was about for these for 2026 MY. IOR trucks that were missing the book.

Anything with the IOK 13 inch radio does not come with a hard copy. So LT, SLE, Elevation, SLT, LTZ, HC, Denali, ZR2, AT4, AT4X.

Only ~$70K+ for those vehicles. So the General can't afford to throw manuals costing them $10-15 in there. Cheap grifting bastards!

Edited January 26 by MaverickZ71

Pryme · January 26

4 minutes ago, MaverickZ71 said:

Only ~$70K+ for those vehicles. So the General can't afford to throw manuals costing them $10-15 in there. Cheap grifting bastards!

It’s unlikely they cost .50c it’s not a service manual. And it’s black and white even on the cover. Very low end.

newdude · January 26

24 minutes ago, MaverickZ71 said:

Only ~$70K+ for those vehicles. So the General can't afford to throw manuals costing them $10-15 in there. Cheap grifting bastards!

I mean...a $30,000 Equinox doesn't come with one either anymore...so...

Another JR · January 26

I have the owners manual saved on my phone, so I don’t need cell or internet service to access it. I also have the paper manual that came with it in the glove box. I refer to the manual on my phone probably ten times for every one time I have used the paper manual. I like having both, though.

Chuck FB · January 26

2 hours ago, dieselfan1 said:

What good is an owners manual if you're in the ditch?

If its a comprehensive enough manual it might explain in an emergency how one sticks their head between their legs so they can kiss their ass goodbye ! LOL. But seriously I meant to figure out something like where to find all the ridiculous places they hide fuses or how to use the few tools there to change a tire or some other item. I am not claiming these owners manuals are great in repairing a vehicle but there are some items that can help the person who isn't very familiar with the vehicle.

Chuck FB · January 26

2 hours ago, dieselfan1 said:

Also if I was driving in a remote area like you describe, I would have a Sattelite phone anyways. Cell phones are worthless in a place like that.

Unless its any different recently there are very few people that at least used to have a sat phone, they were and I think still are pretty expensive just to have working, never mind using it to call on as they charge so much a minute and that rate used to be completely insane. One of my nephews did have one or borrowed one to go out into the mountains with his sled and only used in case of an emergency. Even a regular cell phone in Canada or I should rephrase that, in places outside of the major cities is far more expensive than what phones/plans are in the states or in those major Canadian cities. The government and telecommunications companies have prevented true competition so the few companies that do exist up here and some under one umbrella but make it sound like they are a competing company, they charge whatever they like. In fact I believe there are two companies here that one can have cell service through.

I expect that in the oil patch if your somebody as in a boss and have to have communications, they would have something better but then its a big money making company paying for that luxury. Way back what seems like a life time ago I worked briefly in the oil patch and of course most job locations were far away from civilization and cell phones did not exist or at least any system around here didn't at that time. It was a two way radio that also had the ability to contact a mobile repeater operator ( an actual person ) who patched you through to the other party and everyone on that frequency could hear both sides of the conversation. In fact a long time ago we had that feature on our two ways on the farm, that whole system of repeater towers and so on is most likely long dinosaured now. One would probably have to be watching a movie from the 1960's or 70's to see someone pretending to be patched through !.