Can You Get A Gmc With A Standard Tranny?

century7 · October 30, 2011

With today's autos, manual transmissions are worthless. Only benefit is for the simple minded to pound their chest and feel tougher for having a manual. There is no benefit to a manual trans anymore. Autos are more efficient, more reliable, deliver better fuel economy in some cases and are an insanely better match for a turbodiesel.

I would disagree on one of these. I think a manual has less moving parts so i would say manual is more reliable. There are lots of people i know that have put more miles on a manual without any issues as compared with an auto.

My old S10 was a manual it was also my first truck. I loved it and there are times i miss it, there is something fun about dropping a gear to pass. Granted when i went to my full size daily driver i really did not want that in a stick, especially with the long throws.

On a side note every time i see someone with a new Jeep Wrangler or Vette or other sports car with an auto i just think whats the point. But to each his own.

MikeNH · October 30, 2011

No more. With a manual the clutch is the weak point, autos might take more maintenance but I've yet to hear of any real problems with the 6L80E. I'd never own a Wrangler but if I did I'd get an auto, better for rock crawling. Esp now that they have a decent engine/trans combo.

whizbanger1 · October 30, 2011

Manuals are dead. Thank God.

Garrett Street · October 30, 2011

The only thing I'd want a manual in would be a Jeep or sports car. In a truck it's not usefull to. Too much of a hassle backing up a trailer, maneuvering slowly etc.

redjewel2ss · October 30, 2011

Wires · October 30, 2011

Nuff said....

pm26 · October 30, 2011

Manuals are dead. Thank God.

No, thank lazy lard asses.

whizbanger1 · October 30, 2011

Manuals are gay. What man would want to play with a big, black,long stick all day?

MikeNH · October 31, 2011

Manuals are dead. Thank God.

No, thank lazy lard asses.

Instead of just whining, give definitive proof that a manual would be better than the 6-speed auto currently in all the trucks.

Wires · October 31, 2011

Manuals are dead. Thank God.

No, thank lazy lard asses.

Instead of just whining, give definitive proof that a manual would be better than the 6-speed auto currently in all the trucks.

Depends what you mean by "better". From an efficiency/power delivery/longitivity, they are about the same. I do like the ability to pick the gear I want entering corners, etc. The auto always upshifts as much as possible, so the truck gets "loose".

I ditched my manual car for a 6speed auto with paddle shifters (wife had issue with the manual concept). I love the paddle shifters, as I gives back that control. I wonder if that god-awful delay on the "M" +/- shifts can be pulled out when a tune is done?

MikeNH · October 31, 2011

I keep the truck in M4 around town, this helps tons with the gear hunting and usually keeps the truck from bogging. Every now and then it'll end up in 4th before it really should but overall it makes it loads better.

pm26 · October 31, 2011

Manuals are dead. Thank God.

No, thank lazy lard asses.

Instead of just whining, give definitive proof that a manual would be better than the 6-speed auto currently in all the trucks.

Who is whining? I believe in having a choice. I prefer a manual transmission in most vehicles. It is not about it being better or not, it is about what one prefers. I like having the control of the vehicle at all times and not having to rely on some dumb computer to shift for me.

Automatics today are programmed to upshift way too early for maximum fuel economy, in some cases they cause embarrassing shift delays when a downshift is needed, or shift too abruptly.

Read about complaints about some Ford automatics (like in Ford Focus) and many unhappy customers. AN erratically shifting auto transmission is far worse than a manual one.

MikeNH · October 31, 2011

The Focus is one of Ford's first ventures into the sequential gear box field, it sucks that they're having issues as I think they could be a tremendous benefit to most any vehicle (but crap like that will give them a bad reputation) but to compare that to the traditional auto still in most cars isn't really fair. I'd more open to manuals in vehicles that they are fun in- sporty cars. But I've driven stick shift versions of all the compact and fullsizes that have been built in the past 20-30 years and none of them really impress me. Long throws, vague clutches and so on. I'll take the occasional wonky shift from an auto over the sluggish truck manuals all day long.