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Doug_Scott Senior Enthusiast

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I'm not savvy on this stuff, but I heard about this today so here's the link. Where would consumers get their CNG? I know some local mail trucks and buses use this stuff, but can the general public readily/easily buy it?

 

http://media.gm.com/...ifuel_silverado

 

 

Depends on your location I think. Around Toronto, there are 4 or 5 stations. There are 2 more in southwest Ontario. Approx 80 stations across Canada, but, they are in only 5 provinces. Our local gas company offers a home refilling "station". Good idea for comuting from the suburbs into the downtown core, but not good for going on vacation.

oldschool327 Senior Enthusiast

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This is a dual fuel add on. It will run on gas and cng. Via selector valve and twin tanks. Effective range is over 650 miles with both.

 

Could be a good choice as you are not solely dependent on fuel stations

tyhuck Senior Enthusiast

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Havent they done this several times in the past? Or was it only available through aftermarket installation? I know my dad had an old 85 CC that was CNG.

Morgan1986 Senior Enthusiast

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So compressed natural gas. Does it burn as well as regular car gas . I know propane does not but it sure does burn clean propane on my dads old 91 f250 that thing can go over ever two gas tanks and a big propane tank in the back of the box.

redjewel2ss Enthusiast

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its about time they started doing this! my company converts all our oilfield workers' trucks to CNG. only problem with some of the early aftermarket kits they installed was reliability. when the wiring got hot, the material becomes brittle and breaks. the offroad environment doesn't help either. Honda is currently the only company producing a CNG powered production vehicle. Ford and Chrysler are also in the works to produce a CNG truck.

 

i'm telling ya, CNG is probably going to replace gasoline as our main fuel source. there's a HUGE domestic supply for it, and the price of CNG is much less than gasoline. it also burns cleaner than gasoline. only problem is infrastructure. not many CNG stations around. here's more info on natural gas http://www.anga.us/ don't knock it until you understand it.

 

as far as performance, you get about the same horsepower out of it as you would regular unleaded. and much like regular unleaded, its not really recommended for high horsepower, high performance engines. more info on CNG http://e85.whipnet.net/yellow/cng.html

Doug_Scott Senior Enthusiast

Doug_Scott

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Propane and CNG burn cooler than gasoline. Gas engines use the expanding gases in the cylinder after combustion to actually drive the engine/vehicle. If the fuel burns cooler, you will not get the same power as gasoline, assuming equal amounts of fuel and air.

 

You can get a fairly good return on propane injection though. You can inject it on both gas and diesel engines, and see an increase in hp/torque of about 20-30%.

 

You can get numbers from this site.. http://www.propanecarbs.com/propane.html

nickvrebel Senior Enthusiast

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Our local municipality has some Honda Civics that are CNG, we recently converted some dump trucks to CNG also. The only thing is there is only two local fueling stations.

tyhuck Senior Enthusiast

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I think that CNG vehicles would be a much better alternative to gasoline that ethanol. Granted, neither technology will net you the same fuel milage as gasoline for the same power output, but at least the cost of corn and corn based products might come back down to a reasonable price.

 

I hope they stick with it and give up these ideas of running ethanol and electrics. Electrics are great for small commuter cars that go short distances, but an electric pickup just cant be a good alternative.

redjewel2ss Enthusiast

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I think that CNG vehicles would be a much better alternative to gasoline that ethanol. Granted, neither technology will net you the same fuel milage as gasoline for the same power output, but at least the cost of corn and corn based products might come back down to a reasonable price.

 

I hope they stick with it and give up these ideas of running ethanol and electrics. Electrics are great for small commuter cars that go short distances, but an electric pickup just cant be a good alternative.

 

 

agreed, not smart to use our food supply as fuel. the only thing natural gas is good for is burning it to produce energy

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