Diesel Cruze

[Rolling]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f13/2013-chevy-cruze-diesel-start-23-515-estimated-production-start-2q13-112182/

 

Thoughts?

 

Personally, I would love to see how this is going to work for a commuter! Potential 50+ MPG is a game changer no matter how you look at it!

[HEMICAT]

Will be interesting to see how it does. A lot of opinions and misconceptions in that forum, but nobody knows for sure how the market will respond.

If it's priced close to the new Verona turbo and I was in the market for a car that small I think the Buick would be way more exciting- but maybe for a base econo box or fleet sales the cruze could fill a void.

[Carder09]

Will def be in the market for one if they go for it. Told the wife that I would be more than happy to get her a cruze if they throw the turbo diesel in it. My buddy has a VW passat with the turbo diesel and he is averaging 44mpg higheay and 40 city, thats damn good

[KMGZ400]

definatley the way to go. my mom has a cruze eco and it gets about 42mpg. the diesel would be even better, and someone needs a car to compete with the VW diesel cars. gonna be tough to compete with them though.

[Black02Silverado]

I would get one. I think it will do well. If my 91 Jetta Diesel ever gives up the ghost then the Cruze diesel will be my next choice.

[KMGZ400]

the automakers really should put small diesels in cars, they do it in European countries, dont see why they cant here.

[kstruckcountry]

the automakers really should put small diesels in cars, they do it in European countries, dont see why they cant here.

 

 

Yeah no one else has a problem with putting them in colorados and hiluxes either.

[HEMICAT]

Because the general public has not accepted them. I know my wife hates them, but if I had to choose between a small diesel or a hybrid, I'd rather have the diesel. But you have to admit, diesels are more manly, and that is not usually the type to buy small cars to begin with.

[Doug_Scott]

I think the north american auto makers ruined the idea of a diesel in small cars with their first attempt 25 years ago. GM's idea of converting a Olds gas engine to be a diesel was not the smartest idea, or GM putting a diesel in a Chevette, it vibrated so bad on take off that the dash would shake up and down a good 3 inches of travel. I think you will find that the current customer base in north america is being influenced by their parents experience or opinions on diesel in a car. Volkswagon has been doing it for decades, and have had very good luck with it.

[HEMICAT]

From what I understand from my wife it's the sluggishness and heavy handling, and of course smell and rough sound. Torque isn't really needed for an econobox and people seem to like sporty handling and throttle response from their car. Economics don't work out for the diesel either with more expensive fuel and gas engines being so efficient nowadays and cheap to buy.

There has to be a market for these though- there is for hybrids so I would think these would be more accepted and have a larger market.

Again on the European thing- those guys are forced to drive small diesels so it's not really fair to compare them to us. We have much nicer cars to pick from over here so that hurts with the acceptance of small diesels here.

[MikeNH]

From what I understand from my wife it's the sluggishness and heavy handling, and of course smell and rough sound. Torque isn't really needed for an econobox and people seem to like sporty handling and throttle response from their car. Economics don't work out for the diesel either with more expensive fuel and gas engines being so efficient nowadays and cheap to buy.

There has to be a market for these though- there is for hybrids so I would think these would be more accepted and have a larger market.

Again on the European thing- those guys are forced to drive small diesels so it's not really fair to compare them to us. We have much nicer cars to pick from over here so that hurts with the acceptance of small diesels here.

 

 

 

Has she driven a modern diesel like what you can get in VWs these days? No rough idle, no unpleasant noises and they seem to be reasonably powerful. I guess they can barely keep the things in stock. Personally I wish GM would've been bold and made the new Malibu available with a diesel instead of the "Eco" mild hybrid they went with.

[HEMICAT]

From what I understand from my wife it's the sluggishness and heavy handling, and of course smell and rough sound. Torque isn't really needed for an econobox and people seem to like sporty handling and throttle response from their car. Economics don't work out for the diesel either with more expensive fuel and gas engines being so efficient nowadays and cheap to buy.

There has to be a market for these though- there is for hybrids so I would think these would be more accepted and have a larger market.

Again on the European thing- those guys are forced to drive small diesels so it's not really fair to compare them to us. We have much nicer cars to pick from over here so that hurts with the acceptance of small diesels here.

 

 

 

Has she driven a modern diesel like what you can get in VWs these days? No rough idle, no unpleasant noises and they seem to be reasonably powerful. I guess they can barely keep the things in stock. Personally I wish GM would've been bold and made the new Malibu available with a diesel instead of the "Eco" mild hybrid they went with.

 

 

Her friends brand new VW. Just stating what she said, and I understand what she means. Also, there is an article somewhere ( maybe MSN ) that states facts on car sales in North America and how VW is the only one playing in the small diesel market and what a small percentage of the market it is.

[unit731]

I don't see all of the excitement for a diesel in a small car.

There will be a price premium.

Diesel fuel costs more.

 

And what do you get. A few more MPG then a good 4 cylinder car.

 

There is a market for this. Volkswagen does sell a diesel car. Most/many of the European car are diesel.

 

GM had one bad experience with the V8 diesels in the late 1970s or 1980s. I recall viewing crates of replacement engines on the floor of on GM dealership back then.

 

So where would this 4 cylinder diesel come from? A new design from scratch in North America. One imported from overseas?

 

Can GM manufacture a real good 4 cylinder diesel?

[Morgan1986]

From what I understand from my wife it's the sluggishness and heavy handling, and of course smell and rough sound. Torque isn't really needed for an econobox and people seem to like sporty handling and throttle response from their car. Economics don't work out for the diesel either with more expensive fuel and gas engines being so efficient nowadays and cheap to buy.

There has to be a market for these though- there is for hybrids so I would think these would be more accepted and have a larger market.

Again on the European thing- those guys are forced to drive small diesels so it's not really fair to compare them to us. We have much nicer cars to pick from over here so that hurts with the acceptance of small diesels here.

 

I agree everyone thinks Europe is so progressive but look at them the whole places is up poop creek. If we keep looking at them as a example we will head the same direction.

[MikeNH]

I don't see all of the excitement for a diesel in a small car.

There will be a price premium.

Diesel fuel costs more.

 

And what do you get. A few more MPG then a good 4 cylinder car.

 

There is a market for this. Volkswagen does sell a diesel car. Most/many of the European car are diesel.

 

GM had one bad experience with the V8 diesels in the late 1970s or 1980s. I recall viewing crates of replacement engines on the floor of on GM dealership back then.

 

So where would this 4 cylinder diesel come from? A new design from scratch in North America. One imported from overseas?

 

Can GM manufacture a real good 4 cylinder diesel?

 

 

Yes. GM offers many models with a diesel overseas. The diesel that will power the Cruze will be from elsewhere, no need to do a ground up design when the same model is sold overseas already with diesel power.