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j-ten-ner Senior Enthusiast

j-ten-ner

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...I promise you, and would bet my truck on it, if I want all the time V8 Chevrolet would be happy to make that happen for me free of charge. I am that kind of an ****.

 

I would like to see that.

Especially when the truck is still under warranty.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

Silverado-Hareek

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I have a question for you all. I am new to Chevy. This is my first ever chevy but I can be an **** given the right motivation.

 

My question is this. If you guys really do want 100% of the time V8 driving, why are you paying for and or modifying the V8 truck you bought?

 

I JUST got mine this week so I have no impression of the AFM system yet to be concerned enough. IF and only if I decide that I want my V8 to run as a V8 I will be running to my stealers service department and demanding that my V8 be made to run as a V8.

 

I bought a V8 truck and expect a V8 performance. I promise you, and would bet my truck on it, if I want all the time V8 Chevrolet would be happy to make that happen for me free of charge. I am that kind of an ****.

 

Have any of you even tried to ask Chevrolet to fix the problem for you? If it is not a leased truck, then you should have NO problem getting them to accommodate your wishes.

 

Yeah I don't see Chevy doing that for you ever. Maybe if you sign a legal document that says you take full responsibility of vehicle repairs and all warranties are null and void, but I don't see that happening either. As long as the truck is running as designed, Chevy won't touch a thing. You would need an aftermarket tune.

Copterfixer Enthusiast

Copterfixer

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What damage would or could occur when a V8 runs on all 8 cylinders? How could running a truck like a truck that it was designed and built todo hurt anything or chance ruining the warranty?

 

Yes aftermarket tunes and that chip some people plug into the ob2 port could potentially cause problems because it is not part of the original engineering of the machine.

 

If I buy a V8 and it is only running on 4 of them that is NOT what a V8 is supposed to do nor is it what I bought it to do

 

 

I would like to see that.

Especially when the truck is still under warranty.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

If it is still under warranty and they fixed it so it full time runs on all 8 then it would still be under warranty AS long as Chevrolet service department did it.

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I cannot say I would win BUT I have won many a battle. Ever return a truck after taking delivery and have the dealer accept it back AND reverse the paperwork? I am in that process right now ;). Use your words as weapons and amazing things CAN happen.

 

After I take delivery of my second truck this week and I throw some miles on it I will decide if I want to fight this fight or not. I probably won't since I drive less then 3k per year on my trucks.

 

If I do I will let you guys know when I succeed. Notice I did not say IF. ;)

Yotaman Enthusiast

Yotaman

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What damage would or could occur when a V8 runs on all 8 cylinders? How could running a truck like a truck that it was designed and built todo hurt anything or chance ruining the warranty?

 

Yes aftermarket tunes and that chip some people plug into the ob2 port could potentially cause problems because it is not part of the original engineering of the machine.

 

If I buy a V8 and it is only running on 4 of them that is NOT what a V8 is supposed to do nor is it what I bought it to do

 

 

If it is still under warranty and they fixed it so it full time runs on all 8 then it would still be under warranty AS long as Chevrolet service department did it.

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I cannot say I would win BUT I have won many a battle. Ever return a truck after taking delivery and have the dealer accept it back AND reverse the paperwork? I am in that process right now ;). Use your words as weapons and amazing things CAN happen.

 

After I take delivery of my second truck this week and I throw some miles on it I will decide if I want to fight this fight or not. I probably won't since I drive less then 3k per year on my trucks.

 

If I do I will let you guys know when I succeed. Notice I did not say IF. ;)

 

Well damm you just a bad dude I guess !! I sure wouldn't want to mess with you !!

 

Yotaman

Copterfixer Enthusiast

Copterfixer

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Well damm you just a bad dude I guess !! I sure wouldn't want to mess with you !!

 

Yotaman

Nope not bad ass just persistent. I deserve and demand respect as a consumer and as a serviceman.

 

When money is coming out of my pocket it is under my terms and my terms only. I do not compromise. I worked way to hard for my dollars and I will not settle. That is the attitude I take in any business transaction. I will pay for what I want BUT I will not pay for what I do not.

14SLTZ71 Enthusiast

14SLTZ71

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I have a question for you all. I am new to Chevy. This is my first ever chevy but I can be an **** given the right motivation.

 

My question is this. If you guys really do want 100% of the time V8 driving, why are you paying for and or modifying the V8 truck you bought?

 

I JUST got mine this week so I have no impression of the AFM system yet to be concerned enough. IF and only if I decide that I want my V8 to run as a V8 I will be running to my stealers service department and demanding that my V8 be made to run as a V8.

 

I bought a V8 truck and expect a V8 performance. I promise you, and would bet my truck on it, if I want all the time V8 Chevrolet would be happy to make that happen for me free of charge. I am that kind of an ****.

 

Have any of you even tried to ask Chevrolet to fix the problem for you? If it is not a leased truck, then you should have NO problem getting them to accommodate your wishes.

 

Wrong!! Are you serious? GM will never authorize V4 mode or AFM to be disabled. AFM allows them to report higher gas mileage to the government as well as putting higher numbers on the window sticker.

And guess what that means? Higher sales and more money, it's all about the Benjamin's.

 

Oh, by the way I have the range V8 device purchased in April and haven't had any issues with it. It stays plugged in most of the time and gets removed before I take the truck in for a service. Seems to be working as advertised.

Copterfixer Enthusiast

Copterfixer

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Wrong!! Are you serious? GM will never authorize V4 mode or AFM to be disabled. AFM allows them to report higher gas mileage to the government as well as putting higher numbers on the window sticker.

And guess what that means? Higher sales and more money, it's all about the Benjamin's.

 

Oh, by the way I have the range V8 device purchased in April and haven't had any issues with it. It stays plugged in most of the time and gets removed before I take the truck in for a service. Seems to be working as advertised.

They can report all they want.

 

I would simply use that range device as well if it didnt cost money. It is all about the Benjamins. I am not paying for a device to hack something that I bought because it is not working as I bought it to work.

 

If the range were free, I would easily go that route. I would never expect that company to just give me something they worked so hard for, so... I won't be buying it.

 

Again, back to what I said. If I decide that I do not like the AFM I promise you all that I WILL get the service department to do it for free.

 

I got VW service to turn off my DRL using the VagCom software. They told me it cannot be done. Funny thing, they did it. :)

14SLTZ71 Enthusiast

14SLTZ71

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They can report all they want.

 

I would simply use that range device as well if it didnt cost money. It is all about the Benjamins. I am not paying for a device to hack something that I bought because it is not working as I bought it to work.

 

If the range were free, I would easily go that route. I would never expect that company to just give me something they worked so hard for, so... I won't be buying it.

 

Again, back to what I said. If I decide that I do not like the AFM I promise you all that I WILL get the service department to do it for free.

 

I got VW service to turn off my DRL using the VagCom software. They told me it cannot be done. Funny thing, they did it. :)

We are talking about GM, you will never find a GM authorized service dept that will do it (especially while it's under warranty) without GM authorization, and I assure you that GM would never authorize it, not a chance in hell. If it was that easy to get GM to budge on this issue then everyone would do it.

Too bad they didn't put a switch in the truck to cycle AFM either on or off based on the drivers preference.

Apparently you had no idea about GMs AFM prior to purchase.

Copterfixer Enthusiast

Copterfixer

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We are talking about GM, you will never find a GM authorized service dept that will do it without GM authorization, and I assure you that GM would never authorize it, not a chance in hell. If it was that easy to get GM to budge on this issue then everyone would do it.

Too bad they didn't put a switch in the truck to cycle AFM either on or off based on the drivers preference.

Apparently you had no idea about GMs AFM prior to purchase.

I do wish there was a switch. Bet as a helicopter electrician I could make that happen, if I wanted to ;). I'd have to find the correct manuals as to how it works so that I could engineer something. It is likely more trouble then worth though. I bet it is ALL software driven.

 

No I did not know about AFM. Driving the test victim, I liked it. I do not know if I will still like it when I begin the usage of the truck. I thought it was a perk though when I found out about it. I do not know if it will be disappointing yet. I am still waiting to take delivery of the truck I will keep. The one I am returning is still in the driveway. I'm not touching that one.

 

I knew nothing about it because I had a 2002 Dakota V6 that I traded for this. And my 4 banger TDI does other crazy shit on its own.

 

I have a question for you all. If you put it in tow mode does that keep it in V8? Or what about putting it in 4 High?

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

Silverado-Hareek

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What damage would or could occur when a V8 runs on all 8 cylinders? How could running a truck like a truck that it was designed and built todo hurt anything or chance ruining the warranty?

 

Yes aftermarket tunes and that chip some people plug into the ob2 port could potentially cause problems because it is not part of the original engineering of the machine.

 

If I buy a V8 and it is only running on 4 of them that is NOT what a V8 is supposed to do nor is it what I bought it to do

 

If it is still under warranty and they fixed it so it full time runs on all 8 then it would still be under warranty AS long as Chevrolet service department did it.

.

I cannot say I would win BUT I have won many a battle. Ever return a truck after taking delivery and have the dealer accept it back AND reverse the paperwork? I am in that process right now ;). Use your words as weapons and amazing things CAN happen.

 

After I take delivery of my second truck this week and I throw some miles on it I will decide if I want to fight this fight or not. I probably won't since I drive less then 3k per year on my trucks.

 

If I do I will let you guys know when I succeed. Notice I did not say IF. ;)

 

The engine was DESIGNED AND BUILT to switch from 8 cylinders to 4 cylinders when all 8 are not needed. You are asking GM to change THEIR design to suit you. They aren't going to do that.

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

Silverado-Hareek

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I do wish there was a switch. Bet as a helicopter electrician I could make that happen, if I wanted to ;). I'd have to find the correct manuals as to how it works so that I could engineer something. It is likely more trouble then worth though. I bet it is ALL software driven.

 

No I did not know about AFM. Driving the test victim, I liked it. I do not know if I will still like it when I begin the usage of the truck. I thought it was a perk though when I found out about it. I do not know if it will be disappointing yet. I am still waiting to take delivery of the truck I will keep. The one I am returning is still in the driveway. I'm not touching that one.

 

I knew nothing about it because I had a 2002 Dakota V6 that I traded for this. And my 4 banger TDI does other crazy shit on its own.

 

I have a question for you all. If you put it in tow mode does that keep it in V8? Or what about putting it in 4 High?

 

Also you don't want to drive around in 4 HI that will destroy your drivetrain. Only use 4wheel drive when necessary on loose surfaces like dirt, snow, sand, mud, etc.

 

You can put the truck in M5 and it will stay in V8 all the time. Then you can hit the plus button to change it to M6 when you get to the interstate but that will allow the AFM to work again.

Copterfixer Enthusiast

Copterfixer

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Also you don't want to drive around in 4 HI that will destroy your drivetrain. Only use 4wheel drive when necessary on loose surfaces like dirt, snow, sand, mud, etc.

 

You can put the truck in M5 and it will stay in V8 all the time. Then you can hit the plus button to change it to M6 when you get to the interstate but that will allow the AFM to work again.

Thanks!

 

Like I have said before I am new to this. This is my first 4 wheel and my first V8 as well as my first Chevy. I've had and driven many trucks and have more miles under my belt towing stuff in trucks then not towing. So I got lots of experience, the Chevy, v8 and 4x4 is just the new stuff for me.

fondupot Senior Enthusiast

fondupot

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The engine was DESIGNED AND BUILT to switch from 8 cylinders to 4 cylinders when all 8 are not needed. You are asking GM to change THEIR design to suit you. They aren't going to do that.

 

yea but saying that keeping the truck in V8 mode all the time is gonna hurt something is just dumb...its a V8. It'll run at V8 mode all day for its entire life no problem if it wanted to.

 

GM Should have allowed us to switch it on and off. Just like int he new Vettes, drivers can control when AFM is on or off. Im pretty sure the Chrysler version of AFM on the 300C has a selectable mode as well.

 

*edit* the 6.4-Liter V8 HEMI® Eng w / Fuel Saver Technology uses cylinder deactivation technology when the vehicle is in "Fuel Saver Mode" otherwise it is turned off. Also the Ram can turn the Eco Mode on and off.

Yotaman Enthusiast

Yotaman

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Anyone have a range module they are looking to sell?

I may PM me !!

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