My take on the Baltimore police brutality.

[Spurshot]

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On a side note, I heard a national politician who is running for President pushing body cameras on all officers to protect "the people".

Fine, then she along with all the other elected officials should wear one as well. They are doing far more harm to "the people" than the Police.

 

LOL Good one. Tricky Dicky was the first case of technology catching a politician, that I'm aware of.

[The Zip]

This was quick - the prosecutor in Baltimore said 6 officers failed to establish probable cause for an arrest and charged them with homicide, manslaughter, and misconduct.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us/freddie-gray-autopsy-report-given-to-baltimore-prosecutors.html

[Spurshot]

The hounds have the scent.

[patriot]

It doesn't matter if the cops were in the right or not... a black man died. For that, they'll get murder.

[SnakeEyeSS]

This was quick - the prosecutor in Baltimore said 6 officers failed to establish probable cause for an arrest and charged them with homicide, manslaughter, and misconduct.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us/freddie-gray-autopsy-report-given-to-baltimore-prosecutors.html

2Nd degree murder, she has to prove they intended to kill him. Witness statement that he was trying to hurt himself in the back of the transport.

 

Prosecutor probably just probably blew the case.

['01LS1]

2Nd degree murder, she has to prove they intended to kill him. Witness statement that he was trying to hurt himself in the back of the transport.

 

Prosecutor probably just probably blew the case.

 

There is a depraved heart murder charge in there on one(or more) of them. Intent is not required if I understand it correctly, just extreme recklessness.

[Chris]

From what i read some charges are conduct unbecoming, manslaughter, some other misconduct stuff, and one faces a 2nd degree murder. And reading the news. Yes the news so may not be 100% so take it with a grain of salt. From what i read 2nd degree fits and 2nd degree doesnt need intent. There is an "or" in the definition of it

 

Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as: 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable "heat of passion"; or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life. Second-degree murder may best be viewed as the middle ground between first-degree murder and voluntary manslaughter.

[PMattras]

The courts will have to sort this out and not just what we hear in the news. This is not going to happen overnight. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in criminal matters. This includes police officers. A peaceful protest will help get this to a fair and proper judgment but destroying the town and getting additional people hurt or killed will not help with getting a conviction. It is sad to see a serious matter like this that people would use it for their own illegal gains. I feel sorry for all the shop owners that were affected in this "unnecessary destruction" whom only help provide a needed service for their community.

[The Zip]

I feel sorry for all the shop owners that were affected in this "unnecessary destruction" whom only help provide a needed service for their community.

 

Usually uncessary destruction happens when you get large groups of people together for whatever reason, ie college kids drinking, sporting event championships, etc. Hopefully, Vegas has leaned forward and prepared for tonight. Most times there is rift-raft looking to cause destruction intermingled with people having a good time or making a point.

 

 

It doesn't matter if the cops were in the right or not... a black man died. For that, they'll get murder.

 

It does matter if the cops are right or wrong. Cops are in a position of authority and their job allows them to cause great bodily harm up to deadly force. If that force is "proven" not to be in compliance with departmental standards, the individual cop will be held accountable, regardless of the skin color of the person that died.

[patriot]

 

Usually uncessary destruction happens when you get large groups of people together for whatever reason, ie college kids drinking, sporting event championships, etc. Hopefully, Vegas has leaned forward and prepared for tonight. Most times there is rift-raft looking to cause destruction intermingled with people having a good time or making a point.

 

 

 

It does matter if the cops are right or wrong. Cops are in a position of authority and their job allows them to cause great bodily harm up to deadly force. If that force is "proven" not to be in compliance with departmental standards, the individual cop will be held accountable, regardless of the skin color of the person that died.

 

Exactly. It DOES matter. However, the mayor and her cronies want more power, so they're throwing these cops under the bus.

Watch and see. These cops can NOT get a fair trial in Baltimore.

[The Zip]

 

Exactly. It DOES matter. However, the mayor and her cronies want more power, so they're throwing these cops under the bus.

Watch and see. These cops can NOT get a fair trial in Baltimore.

 

This is in the state AG's control, the mayor doesn't have anything to do with this. Getting into the criminal justice system in 1980, I haven't seen one-sided courts since before the 60's. What make you think the cops won't get a fair trial in Baltimore or anywhere in the country?

[patriot]

Watch and see.

 

Politics in action.

[Spurshot]

I don't know if these police officers did anything wrong or not. But if they did break the law with callous disregard and were responsible for this man's death, they should face as harsh a penalty as anyone, maybe harsher.

 

The misuse of force by police officers should not be tolerated. To give some perspective, my brother is an officer of the law in a major department, and I've had many close friends that made lifetime careers of law enforcement. I was a reserve for more than 10 years. But the misuse of force like we saw here in Torrance a couple years ago when they were chasing Christopher Dorner should have been criminally prosecuted. It's only by sheer luck that nobody was killed by the trigger-happy knuckleheads. I still can't believe these idiots weren't prosecuted. These guys fired 100 rounds on two old ladys without due provocation and all within a tight neighborhood full of sleeping families. Minutes later, a few streets away, they shot up a guy going to surf in the morning. None of them were charged. The DA said it was "justified" because they were understandably amped up and concerned about the threats from Dorner. So, it would have been ruled legitimate to have killed anyone, regardless of whether they presented a reasonable threat or not? Just being in a similar (not even the same color or make) vehicle was justification for using lethal force without so much as a "halt!" and a chance to surrender? No positive I.D. of your target? Nada. Just shoot. So, at that time, in my town, the police were more of a threat to the general public than Dorner. No one should get away with hiding behind a badge. Police officers aren't supposed to have a switch to turn off the Bill of Rights at their discretion.

 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting.html

[The Zip]

 

These guys fired 100 rounds on two old ladys without due provocation and all within a tight neighborhood full of sleeping families. Minutes later, a few streets away, they shot up a guy going to surf in the morning. So, it would have been ruled legitimate to have killed anyone, regardless of whether they presented a reasonable threat or not? Just being in a similar (not even the same color or make) vehicle was justification for using lethal force without so much as a "halt!" and a chance to surrender? No positive I.D. of your target? Nada. Just shoot.

 

 

90% of these cops are good guys, but they are caught-up in a bad system. If the department is run by a crooked, unprofessional, unethical, immoral Chief of Police, then the entire process is broken. The things you mention is training 101, you are 100% correct.

[patriot]

I agree that the police officers who have murdered Freddie Gray in custody was completely unjustified and even a veteran law enforcement officer would say so too, but looting fellow Baltimore residents, burning down businesses is NOT the answer. Yes, you have a right to protest, no, you don't have the right to injure, kill, and burn down things that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the problem. I say if you want to solve the problem, attack the source and not the irrelevant things.

Self-appointed judge and jury?

 

The cops were (over) charged and now go to a real trial with a real judge, and, sadly, a most likely unsympathetic and heavily biased jury.

 

There will be no fair trial. Now it's mob rule and trial by media in Baltimore.

 

All so the mayor and her cronies can gather more power and continue to suck up to the criminal element that riddles Baltimore.