Volant Power Core vs. AFE Momentum GT

[Rawyzf]

Link to MIT?

[nadrojcote]

http://www.amazon.com/AIRAID-200-785-Intake-Synthaflow-Filter/dp/B00O65H6SE

[nadrojcote]

JR kit with oiled filterhttp://www.amazon.com/AIRAID-200-785-Intake-Synthaflow-Filter/dp/B00O65H6SE

MIT only, I would get this and a dry filter.http://www.amazon.com/AIRAID-200-985-Modular-Intake-Tube/dp/B00O65H6S4

[Rawyzf]

MIT only, I would get this and a dry filter.http://www.amazon.com/AIRAID-200-985-Modular-Intake-Tube/dp/B00O65H6S4

Thanks!

[nadrojcote]

Not sure if anyone is interested, but this is a really good quality dry filter for the price. I have it in my 5.3 and it improved my fuel mileage and gives a bit more growl. It says it only fits a 6.2 but it fits my 5.3 perfectly. He also ships priority for free, received mine in two days.

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/361184920105?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Rawyzf]

Not sure if anyone is interested, but this is a really good quality dry filter for the price. I have it in my 5.3 and it improved my fuel mileage and gives a bit more growl. It says it only fits a 6.2 but it fits my 5.3 perfectly. He also ships priority for free, received mine in two days.

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/361184920105?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I'll put that in my back pocket as an option. I want to see if wix has anything for us too.

[nadrojcote]

It honestly costs peanuts, I suggest anyone with a stock filter give it a try.

[GMC-AT]

In regards to the AIRAID 200-985 Modular Intake Tube - does this add much noise when used with the factory air box?

[Jon A]

waste of money. I didnt waste my money throwing one on my 5oo hp challenger. CAIs are great as go alongs with blowers, headers, tunes etc. But as a stand alone, your doing nothing but throwing money down the drain

 

I see people post comments like this from time to time but it always leaves me wondering--upon what data is that based? Over the years I must have seen hundreds and hundreds of before/after dynos of CAI's on various engines in the 350-450 HP range. I don't recall ever seeing a single one that gained nothing. Do they always gain as much as advertised? Of course not. Should you expect a bigger gain on a more powerful modified engine? Yes, but naturally that's just another reason people do this as one of the first mods--it's got to be done sometime and it'll only help increase the gains of every mod after that.

 

As mentioned in another thread, I measured roughly a 40% reduction in the pressure drop accross the intake at 6000 RPM on my 6.2 with the AFE vs. stock. If you do the math it equates to roughly a 10-15 HP gain which is about what you'd expect. There probably isn't much difference in power between the aftermarket intakes, I say pick the style you like. The AFE is pretty quiet when you get it sealed well to the fender if that matters--noise seems to be the biggest complaint with aftermarket intakes on these trucks.

[nards444]

 

I see people post comments like this from time to time but it always leaves me wondering--upon what data is that based? Over the years I must have seen hundreds and hundreds of before/after dynos of CAI's on various engines in the 350-450 HP range. I don't recall ever seeing a single one that gained nothing. Do they always gain as much as advertised? Of course not. Should you expect a bigger gain on a more powerful modified engine? Yes, but naturally that's just another reason people do this as one of the first mods--it's got to be done sometime and it'll only help increase the gains of every mod after that.

 

As mentioned in another thread, I measured roughly a 40% reduction in the pressure drop accross the intake at 6000 RPM on my 6.2 with the AFE vs. stock. If you do the math it equates to roughly a 10-15 HP gain which is about what you'd expect. There probably isn't much difference in power between the aftermarket intakes, I say pick the style you like. The AFE is pretty quiet when you get it sealed well to the fender if that matters--noise seems to be the biggest complaint with aftermarket intakes on these trucks.

I have seen manufactures numbers, but I have yet to see people post their own dynos of before and after. And even then there would need to be enough of them on the same vehicle using the same dyno make my mind change. If in fact you can gain 15-20hp(which I think is a large overstatement for most of these CAI's) for the money it would be a great buy. I also have to question if such a cheap part really produced the effects that some say, why arent they stock? Most 4-500hp high performance cars on the roads dont include them, that has to tell you something.

[Higgs Boson]

I have seen manufactures numbers, but I have yet to see people post their own dynos of before and after. And even then there would need to be enough of them on the same vehicle using the same dyno make my mind change. If in fact you can gain 15-20hp(which I think is a large overstatement for most of these CAI's) for the money it would be a great buy. I also have to question if such a cheap part really produced the ffects that some say, why arent they stock? Most 4-500hp high performance cars on the roads dont include them, that has to tell you something.

 

I am surprised why people still ask this question, "Well why didn't GM (or other make) do it right from the factory if it is so great???"

 

Everyone knows GM has environmental constraints, average buyer constraints, accounting dept constraints, globalization constraints, etc etc forever.

 

GM has to put giant mufflers and cats on exhausts because the EPA says so. My dad, like your dad, doesn't want to hear is intake or exhaust so if GM put something that wasn't baffled and sealed up 95% of the population would buy another brand vehicle that was quiet instead. The vehicle has to work in all the countries it is sold in, it has to work as good at sea level as it does at 12,000 ft elevation, in the rain, in the snow, in the desert heat.

 

From top to bottom, mechanical to electrical to programming, our trucks and cars are compromises in every respect. Fortunately in a free country you can modify and reprogram them to heart's desire to make them function as you please.

[nards444]

 

I am surprised why people still ask this question, "Well why didn't GM (or other make) do it right from the factory if it is so great???"

 

Everyone knows GM has environmental constraints, average buyer constraints, accounting dept constraints, globalization constraints, etc etc forever.

 

GM has to put giant mufflers and cats on exhausts because the EPA says so. My dad, like your dad, doesn't want to hear is intake or exhaust so if GM put something that wasn't baffled and sealed up 95% of the population would buy another brand vehicle that was quiet instead. The vehicle has to work in all the countries it is sold in, it has to work as good at sea level as it does at 12,000 ft elevation, in the rain, in the snow, in the desert heat.

 

From top to bottom, mechanical to electrical to programming, our trucks and cars are compromises in every respect. Fortunately in a free country you can modify and reprogram them to heart's desire to make them function as you please.

Im not surprised. If the CAIs add the power and increase fuel mileage like they all say, why not add it? You figure a $300 CAI probably cost 100 bucks to make, in a mass produced fashion it would probably cost them half that if not more. Even the hellcat really doesnt have a CAI, and is utilizing a drop in filter, which the engineers say its performed better than CAIs they tested.

 

Its a free country if you want to spend whatever to do whatever, than fine, I dont care. There just doesnt seem to be enough empirical non manufacture data to support all the claims.

[Higgs Boson]

Im not surprised. If the CAIs add the power and increase fuel mileage like they all say, why not add it? You figure a $300 CAI probably cost 100 bucks to make, in a mass produced fashion it would probably cost them half that if not more. Even the hellcat really doesnt have a CAI, and is utilizing a drop in filter, which the engineers say its performed better than CAIs they tested.

 

Its a free country if you want to spend whatever to do whatever, than fine, I dont care. There just seem to be enough empirical non manufacture data to support all the claims.

 

are you really asking the same question after I just told you why? did you even read my reply? there are OTHER considerations like non-enthusiast consumer needs/wants and governmental control/policy/regulation/law, etc.

[nards444]

 

are you really asking the same question after I just told you why? did you even read my reply? there are OTHER considerations like non-enthusiast consumer needs/wants and governmental control/policy/regulation/law, etc.

I got that, but you really didnt explain anything. My point is for a $50 or less part, if it improved MPG and performance, and doesnt hurt environment, I dont see govt, etc stopping it. Even so manufactures kind of side step that stuff for sports cars such as camaro, mustang, etc. ANd you dont see it added there.

[soltys]

 

are you really asking the same question after I just told you why? did you even read my reply? there are OTHER considerations like non-enthusiast consumer needs/wants and governmental control/policy/regulation/law, etc.

He's backtracking on what he's posted previously.

 

waste of money. I didnt waste my money throwing one on my 5oo hp challenger. CAIs are great as go alongs with blowers, headers, tunes etc. But as a stand alone, your doing nothing but throwing money down the drain

 

 

What I don't understand is when someone posts a topic asking information on two products that he's interested in purchasing, why do people jump at him and say things about wasting of money, don't do this, buy this, keep it stock, etc, etc. They guy asks for information, give him the information on the two products he asks for, or something similar (stock, or a drop in filter is not similar) If you don't have that to offer, move along.

 

As the title says I would like to hear peoples feed back that have or have had either one of these CAIs. I am getting ready to order one cant make up my mind. The 100 plus in cost differences has me leaning towards the Volant. I have installed both for customers in the past but have never owned of these brands my self. If you have one how do you like it. if you got rid of one why? Thanks. Yes I used the search function and couldn't really find enough info on the two.

 

Have you decided on one yet? One other option that I consider when I bought my AFE was S&B Filters but it was delayed production yet when I bought mine.