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I wouldn't sweat it every vehicle has to break in and when you have metal on metal at those speeds and temperatures any imperfections are coming of I think they call it casting shavings or something shards that long could only come from your thrust bearing if something was malfunctioning anywhere else i.e. Bearings lifters valves everything else would be way smaller or shorter than that if anything was malfunctioning I'm super anal ocd adhd and that shit would drive me crazy till I had à one I trusted or at least a couple dozen people from the Internet tell me the same thing about it and then it would still be in the back of my mind looking at the pics I'd say she is breaking in just fine.

 

I have an 04 Tahoe 5.3 160k z71 murderers row black lol just kidding I just made that color up and named it after the 1927 new your Yankees line up haha anyway I've got the no oil pressure thing going on and when I pulled the pan to change the oring on the pickup tube discovered an enormous amount of very alarming size metal shards big ones like I've never seen metal like was in my engine in any other engine that was still running I immediately thought bearings but after inspections and replacement for no other reason than to waste money and discussion on here with Doug Scott and dirt they helped me come to the conclusion that all the ginormous shards in mine were casting shavings from break in evidence to help support this theory I had changes oil several times since I bought the vehicle 4 years ago before I pulled the pan I flushed the engine with seafoam in the crankcase ran it drained the oil and this was the first time I'd ever seen metal on my drain plug pulled the pan and really got worried but in the end granted I still don't have any oil pressure but I changed main and rod bearings oil pump pickup tube oring timing set all gaskets and seals anything that has to do with oil pressure it has a new part on it still no oil pressure but the point is that mine is 04 and still had to mongo shards in it why had I not seen it on the drain plug before just speculation but I'd imagine it was from running the sea foam and it broke the sludge in the pan up a little and that's how I'd never seen them before none the less from visual ll

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Looks normal to me. Read in the owners manual about the 2 stage oil pump.

 

The 4.3L (L83), 5.3L (L86), 6.2L (LV3) engines are equipped with a two stage oil pump.

The oil pressure gauge jumping three times is caused by a test routine the engine goes through during the first few minutes of driving to insure that both stages are operable.

The oil pressure gauge going to 60 lb. over 3700 RPM, is the calibrated engine speed the oil pump goes into the high pressure stage.

This is normal operation for these engines.

Source:

http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pdf/TechConnect_SepOct_2013.pdf

 

Yes I have the oil and the filter "from my truck " it is still producing oil shavings and slivers and today I noticed my oil gauge holds 20psi at idle 40 from 2-3k rpm and when I hit about 3700rpm it doesn't just increase but more of a straight up jump to 60psi not a smooth type increase seems almost like a sticky gauge problem but with shavings wondering if oil pump is having some problems I have a video I will try to get on here
https://youtu.be/3MH85IK2IwA

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Well thank you all I will keep updating as it comes along I didn't know about the two stage pump still gonna keep an eye on it tho hell today I was showing wife oil pressure and around 4k rpm it hit 80psi well that's new haha so we will see what happens if it blows it blows warrenty time

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Well thank you all I will keep updating as it comes along I didn't know about the two stage pump still gonna keep an eye on it tho hell today I was showing wife oil pressure and around 4k rpm it hit 80psi well that's new haha so we will see what happens if it blows it blows warrenty time

 

Too much pressure is better than not enough. I don't think the engine will blow from the oil being pumped too fast or too much other than the pump itself going out and you continue to let the engine run without oil pressure.That's how the 2 stage pump works in your video so it will last since it's working as it's designed. If a regular pump is pumping faster than it's designed then it can wear out faster than normal but that won't hurt the engine unless you let it run after the pump goes out. As long as it doesn't stay around 20-25 psi all the time you're fine.

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On 5/24/2016 at 4:15 AM, 2015midnightltz said:

I have a 2015 silverado ltz midnight edition 5.3 Z71 pulled dipstick today and seen many metal shavings 1/8 inch long and one about 1/4 inch long cleaned dipstick and then drove to work (bout 5 miles ) checked dip stick again and more shavings and another one was about 1/4 inch long wth truck only has 7k miles any ideas should I be freaking out seems like shavings are a little to large to me to be break in particles

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Did you ever get this figured out? 

  • 8 months later...
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On 10/26/2017 at 7:41 PM, tyler.frost92 said:

Did you ever get this figured out? 

Hi, 

 

any news on this?  Two months ago I purchased a 2017 Suburban certified pre-own with only 17,000 miles and I have the same problem.  Now my truck has 19,000 miles.  

 

I am going to the dealer tomorrow.

 

 

  • 2 months later...
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On 7/9/2018 at 8:26 PM, Darthmalo said:

Hi, 

 

any news on this?  Two months ago I purchased a 2017 Suburban certified pre-own with only 17,000 miles and I have the same problem.  Now my truck has 19,000 miles.  

 

I am going to the dealer tomorrow.

 

 

I have the same issues with my truck, and I am going to try to sue GM for it.  I had 20,000 miles on my truck with multiple oil changes, and I still found metal particles on my dipstick every time I checked the oil.  The engine got so bad the crankshaft started squeaking against the front main bearing!  The dealership replaced my crankshaft, bearings, piston rings (for some odd reason) but I am still getting metal particles 3,000 miles laster.  I took it in again and they told me that it is having issues but I have to wait for a failure.  The idle is rough, there is a lack of power, and it is shedding oil like my dog sheds fur.

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