New DMax v 6.0 short term resale

[austingta]

I have recently sort of decided to trade my 2015 F150 Lariat 502a for a HD2500 All Terrain SLT and I'm considering a diesel for the first time. Towing is not an issue for me.

 

Q: Does the Duramax hold a lot more of its resale than the gas motor would? I trade often.

 

TIA

[NewfieZ71]

_{Yes for sure.}

[NewfieZ71]

I bought a all terrain hd about 3 months ago with the 6.0 gas. I have to say that its a really nice truck. The over all ride is great and the fuel economy is pretty good. I haven't towed anything as of yet..but Im sure that it will be fine. If I had it back I probably would have bought a diesel. Do I really need a diesel? Naw but you never know when car seats and groceries get pretty heavy..haha.

[becker87]

Lots of topics about this throughout the forum. You will get the upfront cost of the diesel back when you trade or sell for a newer model.

[CRApex]

I trade often too..In my experience you get a higher percentage of the original purchase price back on the diesel on a quick turnaround.

[Cowpie]

It does depend somewhat on the market, the available buyers, and current fuel cost. Diesels did not deliver back anywhere near the level of resale percentage that is being discussed when diesel fuel was sitting between $4 and $5 a few years back. It is a crap shoot. To base much of the buying decision on supposed future resale values is not the wisest idea. Just get what you need, what will off the best value while you own it, etc. If towing frequently is a major concern, diesel can be a good choice. If rarely towing, and not doing it extremely heavy, kind of hard to justify diesel. One can rationalize all kinds of things though. It all comes down to how much of your money you want to separate from your wallet.

[diyer2]

Agree with cowpie.

[LaserBlueZ71]

I agree with cowpie as well.

 

Also keep in mind, gas engines are becoming popular all over again because of the insanely high repair costs of modern diesels and their exhaust treatment systems. Look at all the Bosch fuel pump failures in the HD diesel pickup market across all the brands. That's a $10,000 repair. DPF is thousands to repair, EGR valves, you name it.

 

In my area, people are actually shying away from diesel unless it is absolutely needed for a work reason. Buying one "just because" is dying off, due to the repair costs and the high probability that yes, it will in fact happen to you. My buddy works for CN Rail and he said a few years back they stopped buying diesel work trucks. They are all HD gassers now. Sure, loaded down with rail equipment they get 6 or 8 MPG, but they require very little maintenance and virtually no repairs in the lifetime that the railroad owns it.

 

The EPA killed the reliable diesel engine many moons ago.

[Rvduck]

The high resale of the Duramax made it a lot easier to buy my 2016 High Country which is turning out to be my all time favorite vehicle. My 08 Duramax was a terrific truck and was flawless for the 8 years I owned it and then I got an amazing trade in value and I have sold vehicles for a living so I know the difference between what they show you and what they give you, and they gave me a lot for an 8 year old vehicle but it was pristine with only 45000 miles. My 6.0 gas In my 2016 HC dually has exceeded my expectations and gives me an extra 700 pounds of payload over the same model D-max which I absolutely need with my 4000 pound slide in camper. I was a Ford man most of my life. I bought 8 new Ford pickups over a 30 year period until my 2003 F350 lemon 6.0 PSD drove me to try an 08 Duramax. That truck converted me to GMC

and I am never going back to Ford. After getting towed in 3 times with the Ford 6.0 PSD ( referred to as the sick-0 on many truck forums ) I vowed I would never own another 6.0 and yet here I am, the happy owner of another 6.0 but this time a GMC gasser.

[Cowpie]

While the EPA did do a number on diesels, they are not without redemption in cost effective ways. Primarily, any diesel I would own, I would turn off the EGR. No interest in doing anything wild. Just turning off EGR via ECM is a priority. I have done it to 3 diesels I have owned and would have it no other way. The downstream stuff has its own issues, but the EGR is what screws things up more than anything else. No diesel should be forced to eat its own feces. No wrench turning, no parts, just a simple ECM code change. No codes and doubtful any dealer would even know unless one starts pumping up power and other stuff. Fewer DPF regens for those that have DPF. No more EGR cooler problems. The most cost effective change that anyone can make. More return than the cost to do it.

[avalonandl]

The high resale of the Duramax made it a lot easier to buy my 2016 High Country which is turning out to be my all time favorite vehicle. My 08 Duramax was a terrific truck and was flawless for the 8 years I owned it and then I got an amazing trade in value and I have sold vehicles for a living so I know the difference between what they show you and what they give you, and they gave me a lot for an 8 year old vehicle but it was pristine with only 45000 miles. My 6.0 gas In my 2016 HC dually has exceeded my expectations and gives me an extra 700 pounds of payload over the same model D-max which I absolutely need with my 4000 pound slide in camper. I was a Ford man most of my life. I bought 8 new Ford pickups over a 30 year period until my 2003 F350 lemon 6.0 PSD drove me to try an 08 Duramax. That truck converted me to GMC

and I am never going back to Ford. After getting towed in 3 times with the Ford 6.0 PSD ( referred to as the sick-0 on many truck forums ) I vowed I would never own another 6.0 and yet here I am, the happy owner of another 6.0 but this time a GMC gasser.

Rvduck- I don't know how Ford kept so many customers with the issues the 6.0 and 6.4 PS disasters. If someone told me I would have to spend 5k to bulletproof my durmax I would trade it in asap...

[George C]

After 16 years and 4 diesel pick ups, I've gone back to gasoline.

I no longer tow, so there is no need.

No need for the complexity of SCR/EGR emissions equipment, no need for the extra weight, and no need for a more expensive fuel that is unstable during in the cold months.

 

I have found that trading, I may get back half of the initial diesel option cost. So, that is a losing proposition in my book, like 4K less on an 8k option.

If you tow, by all means, a diesel is the ONLY way to go. But you stated that you do not, so resale points to a much better return with a gas engine.

[Rvduck]

Rvduck- I don't know how Ford kept so many customers with the issues the 6.0 and 6.4 PS disasters. If someone told me I would have to spend 5k to bulletproof my durmax I would trade it in asap...

In my case, I stayed with Fords for so many years mainly because I was brand loyal to the point of stupidity.

I learned to drive on a 1955 Ford pickup and my Dad was a Ford man all his life.

The IFS in both my 1988 and 1995 F250s both wore our and the front wheels were tilted out as crazy angles.

A friend followed me down a curvy road and told me that my front wheels looked to be about 45 degrees out of vertical. Ford could not put a decent IFS in a 4x4 so they went to the bone jarring straight axle. Sure, a tougher off road front end for guys that make a living off road. Myself I worked in a lot of remote holes up north but they all had paved roads to my job site.

Now I think all the HD trucks are pretty good. I think the new Ford diesel that came out in 2011 is a good engine.

I hate to say it, but a lot of guys are having real good luck with Rams too. I just prefer the IFS in the GM HD trucks over those straight axles. IMHO, the Chevy and GMC HD 4x4s steer so much better and ride so much better.

When I used to pull a 33 ft Fifth wheel with my Ford Superduties, after pulling the Fiver for about 10 hours,

I would drop in off and head down the highway and it felt like you had to steer all the time to keep going straight

The Fiver made the Fords steer better IMHO. When I switched to my 08 Chevy 3500 dually, the truck steered exactly the same, towing or not and it steered excellent. The other thing about the straight axle I hate is when you pull out to pass on a crowned highway, as you go over the hump, a straight axle will allow one of your front wheels to lift off the road and while this is just for a nano second, you feel it and it is not a nice feeling.

Thanks for your comment.

[Rvduck]

After 16 years and 4 diesel pick ups, I've gone back to gasoline.

I no longer tow, so there is no need.

No need for the complexity of SCR/EGR emissions equipment, no need for the extra weight, and no need for a more expensive fuel that is unstable during in the cold months.

I have found that trading, I may get back half of the initial diesel option cost. So, that is a losing proposition in my book, like 4K less on an 8k option.

If you tow, by all means, a diesel is the ONLY way to go. But you stated that you do not, so resale points to a much better return with a gas engine.

I agree with you on this one. If you don't need the huge towing capacity of a diesel, a gas engine might be a better choice. If you are towing heavy, you need the diesel, no question , but other than that you have to drive 50000 miles a year for many years to make up the extra upfront cost. In Canada the Duramax adds 11000 to the cost of a truck. My truck had a 74000 sticker, exact same truck in a Dmax is 84000. My first house cost me 19000. LOL

Of course you get higher resale with a Duramax, but at the end of the day, are you left with any extra money in your wallet because you drive a diesel, I don't think so.

[Hockeylover86]

I have recently sort of decided to trade my 2015 F150 Lariat 502a for a HD2500 All Terrain SLT and I'm considering a diesel for the first time. Towing is not an issue for me.

 

Q: Does the Duramax hold a lot more of its resale than the gas motor would? I trade often.

 

TIA

 

Resale is very subjective, when will you sell, what will the future hold for diesel vs gas engine regulations, what will fuel costs be, how great of a deal did you get on the new vehicle, how much will the new trucks MSRP increase?

 

My 07 LBZ is worth more than double what a comparable 07 gasser would be, different situations make this impossible to predict, too many variables.

 

Right now if you buy the outgoing 2016 with deep discounts, and the 2017 comes in with a $5000 average price increase, your resale in the future should be good.

 

Bottom line is buy what you want and can afford to live with, drive it and enjoy it.