Rag Left in Oil Pan

duquephart · August 8, 2017

You might demand a new truck, but demanding and getting are two different things. Whether or not there's continuing engine damage can be diagnosed with oil analysis.

So --- the customer, who did nothing wrong, gets the short one?

Spurshot · August 8, 2017

So --- the customer, who did nothing wrong, gets the short one?

You've jumped to the conclusion that there's damage to the engine. Nobody knows that.

duquephart · August 8, 2017

You've jumped to the conclusion that there's damage to the engine. Nobody knows that.

I'd rather have an engine that a rag was not left in. I'm funny that way.

Silver16 · August 8, 2017

You've jumped to the conclusion that there's damage to the engine. Nobody knows that.

You call yourself an engineer but have admittedly missed important details such as but not limited to driving around the block but actually drove the interstate. Now you seem to be protecting the integrity of a dealership that originally created a permanent problem for this guy from the start. What's your stake in this? They must hire mechanics off Craigslist, don't stand behind thier work AND documented thier mistake for all other dealerships to stay away from with a 10ft pole. This PC mentality you have is easy when it's not you. New crate motor would work. Didn't you say you were a drag racer? Would you want this engine in your race car? This guy forever on driving this clump will always be thinking...is it gunna break? Will they fix it? Better stay close to dealership if it could happen. Oil analysis is for consumption issues not future particulate from a rag some dipshit left in the oil pan and buttoned up a brand new engine. Besides they changed the oil. It's about what's lodged in the million ports in the engine. These days close tolerance engines. Your an engineer you should know this. Maybe not. This would take a mechanical engineering firm to really do this right. Is the dealership gunna pay? Oh hell no...is GM? What rag...it's not a failure due to workmanship.

duquephart · August 8, 2017

You call yourself an engineer but have admittedly missed important details such as but not limited to driving around the block but actually drove the interstate. Now you seem to be protecting the integrity of a dealership that originally created a permanent problem for this guy from the start. What's your stake in this? They must hire mechanics off Craigslist, don't stand behind thier work AND documented thier mistake for all other dealerships to stay away from with a 10ft pole. This PC mentality you have is easy when it's not you. New crate motor would work. Didn't you say you were a drag racer? Would you want this engine in your race car? This guy forever on driving this clump will always be thinking...is it gunna break? Will they fix it? Better stay close to dealership if it could happen. Oil analysis is for consumption issues not future particulate from a rag some dipshit left in the oil pan and buttoned up a brand new engine. Besides they changed the oil. It's about what's lodged in the million ports in the engine. These days close tolerance engines. Your an engineer you should know this. Maybe not. This would take a mechanical engineering firm to really do this right. Is the dealership gunna pay? Oh hell no...is GM? What rag...it's not a failure due to workmanship.

Indeed. I thought maybe he worked for an oil analysis firm.

OP is the aggrieved party and deserves to have things made right, and driving the truck with fingers crossed doesn't qualify. This is exactly the sort of shit a friend of mine would put up with --- "But they were so nice about it and it was an honest mistake".

muddkatt · August 8, 2017

Whether or not there's continuing engine damage can be diagnosed with oil analysis.

Maybe, or maybe not. If any part ever fails that could be linked back to oil starvation or contamination of the oiling system, the OP is going to be SOL.

New truck, zero out of pocket....nope! However new truck, equally equipped including all after market accessories, and 10 cents per mile deduction on the truck in question is fair to both.

muddkatt · August 8, 2017

You call yourself an engineer but have admittedly missed important details such as but not limited to driving around the block but actually drove the interstate. Now you seem to be protecting the integrity of a dealership that originally created a permanent problem for this guy from the start. What's your stake in this? They must hire mechanics off Craigslist, don't stand behind thier work AND documented thier mistake for all other dealerships to stay away from with a 10ft pole. This PC mentality you have is easy when it's not you. New crate motor would work. Didn't you say you were a drag racer? Would you want this engine in your race car? This guy forever on driving this clump will always be thinking...is it gunna break? Will they fix it? Better stay close to dealership if it could happen. Oil analysis is for consumption issues not future particulate from a rag some dipshit left in the oil pan and buttoned up a brand new engine. Besides they changed the oil. It's about what's lodged in the million ports in the engine. These days close tolerance engines. Your an engineer you should know this. Maybe not. This would take a mechanical engineering firm to really do this right. Is the dealership gunna pay? Oh hell no...is GM? What rag...it's not a failure due to workmanship.

Indeed. I thought maybe he worked for an oil analysis firm.

OP is the aggrieved party and deserves to have things made right, and driving the truck with fingers crossed doesn't qualify. This is exactly the sort of shit a friend of mine would put up with --- "But they were so nice about it and it was an honest mistake".

While I agree with both of you, lets keep this thread civil. I usually agree with Spurshot, but this time I am on the other side.

We all have voiced our opinions, now let the OP decide how he intends to proceed. Its his call, not ours.

Silver16 · August 8, 2017

Not posting uncivil. Tones or feeling from typed words are a perception. I was giving facts. I am trying to understand point of view. My mistrust of dealerships and manufacturers comes from experience. Seen people die from bandaide diplomacy. Not in this case that extreme but again it's from experience. I am not going to lay my background out here like others have. No disclaimers either. It is the internet. I post like I talk. If I'm wrong I own it. If I don't know I ask. If I offend oh well.