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scape41 Enthusiast

scape41

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Sorry, I'm not buying it...they would never tell a customer this...

 

Why would you think I would take the time to make up a story like this? Because I was tired of hearing about Russia in the news? I have a very close friend that owned the dealership prior to Berkshire Hathway buying him out. That is why I use this dealer and that is why they were honest with me about what happened. Since my friend is no longer involved with the dealership, I am concerned about what impact this may have in miles to come with my motor. Not making this up. My mangina isn't bothering me. I just have a 58,000 dollar truck that I have little confidence in now...

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KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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I wouldn't keep it pass the warranty. I would have ask for an extended on the engine.

 

 

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Donstar Senior Enthusiast

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I'd be pretty upset if this happened. What did your dealer do to help compensate for your inconvenience? They are not obligated to do more than " make you whole" again but sometimes they will add a free service or gift. A positive note was that they told you about their mistake. I doubt it was shredded or caused any potential future harm. They made a mistake and they were honest. I would not stop going to them just because of this experience.

duquephart Enthusiast

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I'd be pretty upset if this happened. What did your dealer do to help compensate for your inconvenience? They are not obligated to do more than " make you whole" again but sometimes they will add a free service or gift. A positive note was that they told you about their mistake. I doubt it was shredded or caused any potential future harm. They made a mistake and they were honest. I would not stop going to them just because of this experience.

 

Made a mistake I'll buy. But honest?

Thomcat Senior Enthusiast

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Another dealer screw up. Sorry dude. Good Luck.

No rag that I have seen has been eaten, deteriorated by engine oil. :happysad:

Eaten up by engine oil? To replace an oil pan gasket the oil pan has to be removed and unless you are talking about a Chrysler slant 6 with an externally removable oil pump, the oil pump and pickup screen is in the bottom end of the GM V engines. When you pull an oil pan there is a whole crap load of rotating parts, crank, camshaft, oil screen pickup, discharge valves, oil gallery drains and rough edges in the bottom end of an engine. A rag can float in oil for a hundred years and nothing will effect it ,but beat the crap out of it with a 50+ lb. spinning crankshaft with counterbalance weights spinning at over 2000+ rpms, wrapping it around the main bearings, beating it against the lower cylinder walls and piston rods, and it is soon ripped to shreds.

 

.02 The engine didn't lose oil pressure because the rag remained intact.

Thomcat Senior Enthusiast

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Sorry, I'm not buying it...they would never tell a customer this...

But then again someone stupid enough to leave a rag in a crankcase might be stupid enough to admit to it!

truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

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Eaten up by engine oil? To replace an oil pan gasket the oil pan has to be removed and unless you are talking about a Chrysler slant 6 with an externally removable oil pump, the oil pump and pickup screen is in the bottom end of the GM V engines. When you pull an oil pan there is a whole crap load of rotating parts, crank, camshaft, oil screen pickup, discharge valves, oil gallery drains and rough edges in the bottom end of an engine. A rag can float in oil for a hundred years and nothing will effect it ,but beat the crap out of it with a 50+ lb. spinning crankshaft with counterbalance weights spinning at over 2000+ rpms, wrapping it around the main bearings, beating it against the lower cylinder walls and piston rods, and it is soon ripped to shreds.

 

.02 The engine didn't lose oil pressure because the rag remained intact.

Well to be fair, oil pans are designed to hold their oil without the crank touching it, otherwise it aerates the oil. So we know there is space for 8 quarts of oil in there. It wouldn't be unreasonable for the rag to just sit there in the oil and then get sucked into the oil pickup, and just stay there causing a loss in pressure.

 

Would have been nice to see the rag

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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Eaten up by engine oil? To replace an oil pan gasket the oil pan has to be removed and unless you are talking about a Chrysler slant 6 with an externally removable oil pump, the oil pump and pickup screen is in the bottom end of the GM V engines. When you pull an oil pan there is a whole crap load of rotating parts, crank, camshaft, oil screen pickup, discharge valves, oil gallery drains and rough edges in the bottom end of an engine. A rag can float in oil for a hundred years and nothing will effect it ,but beat the crap out of it with a 50+ lb. spinning crankshaft with counterbalance weights spinning at over 2000+ rpms, wrapping it around the main bearings, beating it against the lower cylinder walls and piston rods, and it is soon ripped to shreds.

 

.02 The engine didn't lose oil pressure because the rag remained intact.

Agree. I was saying that the oil wouldn't eat it up or deteriorate it. :happysad:

Loco-diablo Senior Enthusiast

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I left my truck at the dealer for nearly 6 weeks awaiting the new condenser for the broken AC. While the truck was there I had asked them to investigate a small oil leak. They called to tell me the truck was ready and that the oil pan gasket had to be replaced. I was excited to get the truck back until I pulled out on the highway and a warning message popped up that said to shut off truck due to no oil pressure! I pulled in and got it back to the dealer service department assuming they had forgotten to put oil in it.

 

As we walked around the truck I saw a ding in my front fender that wasn't there when I dropped it off. We opened the hood to find both the brackets that run from the fenders to the radiator support were left hanging and....it had oil!!!

 

They just called me to say that the tech had left a rag in on the oil pump, but not to worry as the rag was in tact.

 

Holy Cow!! I'm worried. What are your thoughts? How worried should I be? Have 50,000 miles on this truck.

Wow.. that's unbelievable AND inexcusable...

JimCost2014 Senior Enthusiast

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I do agree with going to another dealership. Have them drop the oil pan, and then get an inspection camera into every passage, around rotating parts, etc. and see if they find anything. Good chance the engine life has been cut very short.

Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

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Good god what a bunch of Bozos at your dealership. Reminds me why I either do my own oil changes or a friend does them himself at his shop. I would probably offload it within the next 10-20K miles just for piece of mind.

Heavy 5.7 Enthusiast

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When I got home I noticed the driver side had been rotated, but the passenger side tires were left untouched.

There is some type of evidence of a wheel having been removed and reinstalled? lol

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OP post up an image of your work order stating a rag had been left in the oil pan then all these naysayers can buzz off.

Silver16 Enthusiast

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I do agree with going to another dealership. Have them drop the oil pan, and then get an inspection camera into every passage, around rotating parts, etc. and see if they find anything. Good chance the engine life has been cut very short.

Common sense I WOULD think...itsa Kali thing

dmorrisL86 Enthusiast

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There is some type of evidence of a wheel having been removed and reinstalled? lol

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OP post up an image of your work order stating a rag had been left in the oil pan then all these naysayers can buzz off.

Correct. It's called differences in tread wear on the front vs rear tires. Also, the right rear wheel had some minor grey overspray from the factory on the machined surface that was there when it was delivered to the dealer (all-terrain wheels). Pissed me off every time I noticed it while washing. That right rear wheel had not been moved, and by default, nor had the right front.

 

What was that you were saying about naysayers buzzing off?

scape41 Enthusiast

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I'll be happy to post the work order once they provide that and my truck back. I don't need tears. I don't need any additional comments from mental midgets. I just wanted honest opinions on how concerned I should be about any potential damage. For those of you that responded with your opinion on that topic, I thank you. For the the other no talent ass clowns, I hope you make another new member to the forum feel more welcome than you have me.

 

Don't assume you know more than the next guy...especially on-line. No one was crying or looking for sympathy, just looking for others with knowledge about these engines and what I might want to consider.

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