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43 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I know nothing about flying. From what I’ve seen. They were at full power for takeoff. Sudden loss of power from one engine causing extreme banking because of uneven thrust. Tilting the plane enough to make the wing hit the ground. Was there enough time for even a top level pilot to catch the pivot?

Yes we train to fly engine out even losing two. 
 

Didn’t catch wing. Landing gear hit top of building. 
 

I suck gear up ASAP on heavy takeoffs to lower drag just in case WHY? You can’t land at end of runway or stop after rotation on a heavy jet liner. 
 

Trust me they were pulling ever bit of 99,000 lbs of thrust outta those 3  engines 

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Weird Experience

 

I've been playing with my Mirage; cooling and fuel management systems. Thought I was cutting some new ground and while searching for something other ran across a fellows work that was using the EXACT same materials from the EXACT same source for the EACT same reasons and came to the EXACT same conclusions. Oh, and several years before me. There is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10 

 

This is the second time during my life I've had this experience. Seventh grade was the first. 

 

The way I was taught math was modular in that learning a series of steps base on "WHY" allows one to determine the next logical step without instruction. I was but eleven at the time (started school early) and within a few weeks was moved to a Freshman math class skipping two years. We didn't have AP classes then. But my seventh grade teacher noticed I was able to see patterns in numbers and in learn unassisted, methods that were unusual for a boy eleven. I knew Algebra before I was taught Algebra. It was intuitive for me. While is was unusual for the age it was not unusual in being. No one was offended and that was unusual. 

 

People don't get upset when you come to a conclusion previously held. But they get all sideways when you come to one no one has before. It is the exact same experience but one is called Genius and the other a Fluke.  

 

From WIKI: 

Genius

 
[Quote] Genius is a characteristic of original and exceptional insight in the performance of some art or endeavor that surpasses expectations, sets new standards for the future, establishes better methods of operation, or remains outside the capabilities of competitors. Genius is associated with intellectual ability and creative productivity. [Close quote]
 
Seems you don't just have to have the ability to for "Exceptional Insight' you also have to be first! :idiot:
 
What Genius came to that self serving conclusion? 😏 
 
Anyone see iGEM on 60 minutes tonight? Highschool students doing Post Grad work on CRISPR. A class in Atlanta created a test for LYME disease and a CURE for it that the EXPERTS say will only be valid if "further testing agrees".
 
A decided lack of Genius.   :crackup:
 
 
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7 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Anyone see iGEM on 60 minutes tonight? Highschool students doing Post Grad work on CRISPR. A class in Atlanta created a test for LYME disease and a CURE for it that the EXPERTS say will only be valid if "further testing agrees".
 
A decided lack of Genius.   :crackup:

 

I think all they're saying is the test/cure/whatever for Lyme's disease also needs to be held up to rigorous testing via scientific methods, i.e. the results need to be repeatable and reliable. Nothing wrong about that.

 

Remember Covid? And the dimwits who insisted Ivermectin was a cure? They even pointed to a case or two where someone had covid, then they took ivermectin, and the covid went away.

 

It was a miracle cure ...right?! They could prove it! Except ivermectin as a "cure" rapidly fell apart in actual clinical trials, i.e. trial by scientific method.

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7 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Weird Experience

 

I've been playing with my Mirage; cooling and fuel management systems. Thought I was cutting some new ground and while searching for something other ran across a fellows work that was using the EXACT same materials from the EXACT same source for the EACT same reasons and came to the EXACT same conclusions. Oh, and several years before me. There is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9, 10 

 

This is the second time during my life I've had this experience. Seventh grade was the first. 

 

The way I was taught math was modular in that learning a series of steps base on "WHY" allows one to determine the next logical step without instruction. I was but eleven at the time (started school early) and within a few weeks was moved to a Freshman math class skipping two years. We didn't have AP classes then. But my seventh grade teacher noticed I was able to see patterns in numbers and in learn unassisted, methods that were unusual for a boy eleven. I knew Algebra before I was taught Algebra. It was intuitive for me. While is was unusual for the age it was not unusual in being. No one was offended and that was unusual. 

 

People don't get upset when you come to a conclusion previously held. But they get all sideways when you come to one no one has before. It is the exact same experience but one is called Genius and the other a Fluke.  

 

From WIKI: 

Genius

 
[Quote] Genius is a characteristic of original and exceptional insight in the performance of some art or endeavor that surpasses expectations, sets new standards for the future, establishes better methods of operation, or remains outside the capabilities of competitors. Genius is associated with intellectual ability and creative productivity. [Close quote]
 
Seems you don't just have to have the ability to for "Exceptional Insight' you also have to be first! :idiot:
 
What Genius came to that self serving conclusion? 😏 
 
Anyone see iGEM on 60 minutes tonight? Highschool students doing Post Grad work on CRISPR. A class in Atlanta created a test for LYME disease and a CURE for it that the EXPERTS say will only be valid if "further testing agrees".
 
A decided lack of Genius.   :crackup:
 
 

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16 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

I think all they're saying is the test/cure/whatever for Lyme's disease also needs to be held up to rigorous testing via scientific methods, i.e. the results need to be repeatable and reliable. Nothing wrong about that.

 

Remember Covid? And the dimwits who insisted Ivermectin was a cure? They even pointed to a case or two where someone had covid, then they took ivermectin, and the covid went away.

 

It was a miracle cure ...right?! They could prove it! Except ivermectin as a "cure" rapidly fell apart in actual clinical trials, i.e. trial by scientific method.

I remember it being a medication. Reducing the severity and length of the illness. The vaccine was supposed to be the cure. Until it wasn’t. 

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9 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I remember it being a medication. Reducing the severity and length of the illness. The vaccine was supposed to be the cure. Until it wasn’t. 

 

Except ivermectin didn't do that either. Nor did any of the other miracle cures and witches brews which pseudo-science was peddling back then.

 

The vaccine wasn't a cure at all. It was, and always has been, a vaccine. It has shown to reduce severity and prevent transmission. And like all vaccines, it has side effects in some populations. The difference with this vaccine is, it's had the hell politicized out of it.

 

But anyway, the point is repeatable and reliable results obtained through structured testing (scientific method) across wide populations. That's not political, or genius, or anything else, it's how we arrive at conclusions with valid data.

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38 minutes ago, Atlas said:

 

Except ivermectin didn't do that either. Nor did any of the other miracle cures and witches brews which pseudo-science was peddling back then.

 

The vaccine wasn't a cure at all. It was, and always has been, a vaccine. It has shown to reduce severity and prevent transmission. And like all vaccines, it has side effects in some populations. The difference with this vaccine is, it's had the hell politicized out of it.

 

But anyway, the point is repeatable and reliable results obtained through structured testing (scientific method) across wide populations. That's not political, or genius, or anything else, it's how we arrive at conclusions with valid data.

There’s evidence that some of the medications worked. Clinical trials are uncovering some problems with the vaccine. But certainly science is a moving target. It doesn’t help when people make claims without actual science. The six ft rule was explained later as it couldn’t hurt. I’m lucky my wife is always questioning so called experts. My family would be smaller if she believed doctors absolutely. She spent her early teenage years as a candy striper at a hospital. She sure looked good in that outfit. She couldn’t believe what went on in there.

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3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I remember it being a medication. Reducing the severity and length of the illness. The vaccine was supposed to be the cure. Until it wasn’t. 

Of course you do. 🙌

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14 hours ago, customboss said:

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Tzu missed badly in believing man is only good if another man judges him so based on any metric a man can judge by. 

 

What can another man give you? What is it he possess that would be of so much value you would give him such worship? Need his approval so badly as to subjugate yourself to his will. Can he add eternity to your life? Can he clean your conscience? Can he make you whole? What can he teach you that would allow you to do these things for yourself? Does a man put breath in you? If he takes it from you, can he give it back? Can he create something from nothing? Job.....

 

 

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Etymology

respect(v.)

1540s, "to regard, notice with especial attention," from French respecter "look back; respect; delay" (16c.), from Latin respectere, frequentative of respicere "look back at, regard, consider," from re- "back" (see re-) + specere "look at" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe").

The meaning "treat with deferential esteem, regard with some degree of reverence" is from 1550s. The sense of "refrain from injuring or interfering with" is from 1620s. The meaning "have reference to, relate to" is from 1560s. Related: Respectedrespecting.

 

To respect the person was "show undue bias toward (or against) based on regard for the outward circumstances of a person;" hence respecter of persons, usually with negative, from Acts 10:34, in the 1611 translation.

 

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What used to be a sign of disrespect is now a hobby for many people. Interfere for the sake of response.
 
I hear on the news last night that Oxford Dictionary has added the phrase "Rage Bait" to the vocabulary. Rage doesn't seem to need any encouragement that it should require baiting. 
 
Seems indoctrinated into humanity. Violence in deed and word isn't what is happening in some third world country or some isolated neighborhood across town. It's happening (taught) on the TV screen. In children's games. Social media. Fiction works. Practiced in family life and on the streets and schools and promoted by educators of all stripes. Half the world doesn't even realize they are willing participants. Nor do they care. It is the air we breath. (Ephesians 2:2)
 
 
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22 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Etymology

respect(v.)

1540s, "to regard, notice with especial attention," from French respecter "look back; respect; delay" (16c.), from Latin respectere, frequentative of respicere "look back at, regard, consider," from re- "back" (see re-) + specere "look at" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe").

The meaning "treat with deferential esteem, regard with some degree of reverence" is from 1550s. The sense of "refrain from injuring or interfering with" is from 1620s. The meaning "have reference to, relate to" is from 1560s. Related: Respectedrespecting.

 

To respect the person was "show undue bias toward (or against) based on regard for the outward circumstances of a person;" hence respecter of persons, usually with negative, from Acts 10:34, in the 1611 translation.

 

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What used to be a sign of disrespect is now a hobby for many people. Interfere for the sake of response.
 
I hear on the news last night that Oxford Dictionary has added the phrase "Rage Bait" to the vocabulary. Rage doesn't seem to need any encouragement that it should require baiting. 
 
Seems indoctrinated into humanity. Violence in deed and word isn't what is happening in some third world country or some isolated neighborhood across town. It's happening (taught) on the TV screen. In children's games. Social media. Fiction works. Practiced in family life and on the streets and schools and promoted by educators of all stripes. Half the world doesn't even realize they are willing participants. Nor do they care. It is the air we breath. (Ephesians 2:2)
 
 

Words aren’t reality. They are markers to poorly describe reality. Same as the collection of books ( called Bible ) that Grumpy likes to share to attempt to prove his moral guidance. I’m more impressed by Grumpys actions vs his words. 

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Indoctrinated? I don't consider myself unworthy while kowtowing to Space Daddy, nor do I attend meetings every week and give money for someone to tell me how to live my life.

 

Remember, only YOU control your emotions.

 

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9 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Tzu missed badly in believing man is only good if another man judges him so based on any metric a man can judge by. 

 

What can another man give you? What is it he possess that would be of so much value you would give him such worship? Need his approval so badly as to subjugate yourself to his will. Can he add eternity to your life? Can he clean your conscience? Can he make you whole? What can he teach you that would allow you to do these things for yourself? Does a man put breath in you? If he takes it from you, can he give it back? Can he create something from nothing? Job.....

 

 

You miss the point. Again. 

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39 minutes ago, Atlas said:

Indoctrinated? I don't consider myself unworthy while kowtowing to Space Daddy, nor do I attend meetings every week and give money for someone to tell me how to live my life.

 

Remember, only YOU control your emotions.

 

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You’re pretty funny. In certain parts of the world you would be hunted down. Here we chuckle at your ignorance. You should be thanking your lucky stars you live in a country that was founded on religious freedom. The constitution follows the bible and the 10 commandments. All you have to do is just experience life and realize intelligent design had to have a hand. Sure it’s hard to believe we were made in Gods image. We are wired that way. I have hope and faith. I’m not perfect. My father claimed he didn’t believe. Later in life my mother would walk in the house and he’d be watching a sermon. He would just smile. I’m encouraged by the fact the youngsters up and coming are turning to the church. I can think of worse places for them to congregate. 

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