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Black02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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Just food for thought. 

 

The difference is the by-pass setting.  The PF48 is set to 15psi, the PF63 is set to 22psi.

 

So in retrospect you would not want to put a filter on an oil system that has high oil pressure because the filter would be in by-pass mode as well as the construction isn't meant for higher pressures. 

 

Now to put a higher by-pass filter on a system with lower oil pressures, as stated the above application, basically will not hurt a thing.  Just means the filter will not go into by-pass until the system pressure is at 22psi.  Which means cleaner oil longer and no dirty by-passed oil.

 

They increased the PF63 due to the higher pressures of the system and to keep the filter from going into by-pass so often. 

 

Not trying to say right or wrong, just looking at it from a different point of view.

 

If you read the TSB, it doesn't say anything about not putting a PF63 on an application that uses a PF48, but the other way around to prevent unfiltered oil from circulating in the system which will cause premature wear. 

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I just picked up a 2500 6.0 myself and I stuck with the 48series filter but went with the upf48r after reading some good things about them. 

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24 minutes ago, Chevyfan3 said:

I just picked up a 2500 6.0 myself and I stuck with the 48series filter but went with the upf48r after reading some good things about them. 

Interesting you mention the UPF48R.  GM just sent out a bulletin on using the new UPF63R on the newer V6 engines.  

 

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Today's engines have very tight tolerances, multiple oil pressure control systems and high flow lubrication system requirements. These requirements will vary based on the specific engine design, so the proper match of oil filter to the engine application is more important than it has ever been in the past.
The High Feature V-6 engines RPO (LGX) and (LGW) have higher oil pump pressure to accommodate engine cam phasing and high-speed bearing requirements. As a result, the oil filter performance was improved to meet this higher oil pressure output.
The new UPF63R oil filter has a thicker outer shell to provide higher burst pressure resistance during cold temperature conditions and greater fatigue strength. Failing to use this filter could result in external oil leaks due to gasket blowout or wrench flute cracks.
Any time an oil filter is changed on one of the above vehicles, it is recommended to use the new and improved filter."
 
Again,  note that nothing is mentioned about it not being able to be used on previous engines, just to make sure to use it on the higher oil pressure system V6 engines.
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5 hours ago, Black02Silverado said:

Interesting you mention the UPF48R.  GM just sent out a bulletin on using the new UPF63R on the newer V6 engines.  

 

"

Today's engines have very tight tolerances, multiple oil pressure control systems and high flow lubrication system requirements. These requirements will vary based on the specific engine design, so the proper match of oil filter to the engine application is more important than it has ever been in the past.
The High Feature V-6 engines RPO (LGX) and (LGW) have higher oil pump pressure to accommodate engine cam phasing and high-speed bearing requirements. As a result, the oil filter performance was improved to meet this higher oil pressure output.
The new UPF63R oil filter has a thicker outer shell to provide higher burst pressure resistance during cold temperature conditions and greater fatigue strength. Failing to use this filter could result in external oil leaks due to gasket blowout or wrench flute cracks.
Any time an oil filter is changed on one of the above vehicles, it is recommended to use the new and improved filter."
 
Again,  note that nothing is mentioned about it not being able to be used on previous engines, just to make sure to use it on the higher oil pressure system V6 engines.

What I gathered from reading other posts was it had a better filter media then the standard pf48 filter so that's why I went with it. I did see a small increase in oil pressure after install, these 6.0 run pretty low oil pressure as idle it seems.

 

Just getting back in the Chevy truck game, was in a 2017 Tundra before this 2500hd and had a 2014 1500 Silvy before the Tundra. 

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17 minutes ago, Chevyfan3 said:

What I gathered from reading other posts was it had a better filter media then the standard pf48 filter so that's why I went with it. I did see a small increase in oil pressure after install, these 6.0 run pretty low oil pressure as idle it seems.

 

Just getting back in the Chevy truck game, was in a 2017 Tundra before this 2500hd and had a 2014 1500 Silvy before the Tundra. 

Welcome back to team GM.

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Was anyone able to clarify if the PF63/PF64 are the recommended oil filters for 2012 and newer Gen IV 6.0L's?  Bulletin 17-NA-157 is a little ambiguous (in typical GM fashion) in that it includes L96 and LC8 (CNG/propane L96) and warns against the use of an oil filter with a 15 psi or lower bypass valve, like the PF48E.  Then it turns around and says use EPC recommended oil filter, which still appears to be the PF48E for these engines.  Now I have heard, but have been unable to verify as of yet, that the bypass valve in the high performance UPF48R is 21 psi.  ACDelco also recommends the UPF48R for Gen. IV 6.0L's, so that might be the 'safest' oil filter to use if someone is concerned about voiding their truck's warranty.  See this thread on another forum:

 

https://www.cadillacforums.com/threads/oil-filter-choice.1090978/page-2

 

For clarification, the oil filter bypass valve opens when the pressure differential between oil coming into the filter and oil going out of the filter is over the psi rating of the valve.  Even with a 15psi bypass valve, the valve should stay closed even with 50 psi oil pressure going into it, as long as the filter is not overly restricting the flow and the oil is of the proper viscosity.     

 

    

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