Thoughts on the Tesla Pickup?

KARNUT · December 1, 2019

That’s because deposits are only $100. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get a million deposits.

look at the model 3. It was supposed to be their economical option for an electric car and you got folks that put down deposits years ago and still haven’t received their cars yet. Elon is a scam artist. He promises something then when it’s time to deliver he either can’t or it’s $20k more than you thought you were gonna pay.

I think some of the problems are more orders than they expected. As far as promising more than can be delivered. That’s been an automotive trademark since the beginning of the industry.

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Wiggums · December 1, 2019

There was a mention that it would have a solar panel on it, giving it 10 miles a day without the need to plug it in. Elon said there might be the folding option which gives it more sun and gets 25 to 30 miles a day. Due to handling issues, I don't drive the Chevy at the ranch anymore. I drive it for long distance trips once a month and the Tesla could easily replace the Chevy that way.

Edited to add: the range is 500 miles. That along with the solar option is appealing to me since I'm usually in Mexico.

Donstar · December 1, 2019

I would definitely place a $100 deposit if I intended to buy one. There is no scam but a newer company competing in uncharted territory. Several months ago I came very close to placing a $1000 deposit on a Rivian but finances told me to wait. Adding a little cash to an expression of interest adds a little sincerity.

Donstar · December 1, 2019

6 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

There was a mention that it would have a solar panel on it, giving it 10 miles a day without the need to plug it in. Elon said there might be the folding option which gives it more sun and gets 25 to 30 miles a day. Due to handling issues, I don't drive the Chevy at the ranch anymore. I drive it for long distance trips once a month and the Tesla could easily replace the Chevy that way.

You bring up an excellent point in support of EV's. The ability for "free" fuel is possible. There are currently options available for homeowners to supplement or fulfill their power needs. Harnessing solar and wind energy has proven to be a viable alternative for those living "off grid". Energy storage is often a challenge and powering your transportation would be a excellent use of excess power. (This is much easier than burying dinosaurs in your yard and waiting.....)

j-ten-ner · December 1, 2019

On 11/29/2019 at 4:23 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

Recorded history of mans self governance is over 6,000 years old and every from and type of commerce and governance tired has failed to do what Anna Lappe suggest it will do. Having a tool to do the task is the short end of the stick when it comes to fixing anything under the sun. No...me thinks having the tools has little to do with pretty much everything. I have a scalpel but I bet you don't want me to do any surgery on you.

I went to a shop today to have a battery in my tablet replaced and the cost of that battery was the cost of the tablet when I bought it new. The young man suggested I spend more money to just buy a new one as that would be more 'cost efficient'.

I asked why each part of the device cost what the device cost and yes with a straight face he echoed 'supply and demand'. I asked him then if he spent $60,000 on a new truck and a rock took out the windshield if he believed a replacement windshield should cost $60,000 because supply was deliberately shorted. I've lived too long to be that stupid.

Truthfully, I'd ride a horse as a preference to gas motored transportation but various lobbies have assured that such is no longer possible.

I have no interest in the technology for personal transport. Period. I can see if for public intercity transport however.

I'm not taking the ugliest girl in the room to the dance just because it's my only choice.

It might be the current supply but I have no demand laid on me to accept it.

Exactly. One needs to know how to use the tools.

so long

j-ten-ner

Wiggums · December 1, 2019

32 minutes ago, Donstar said:

You bring up an excellent point in support of EV's. The ability for "free" fuel is possible. There are currently options available for homeowners to supplement or fulfill their power needs. Harnessing solar and wind energy has proven to be a viable alternative for those living "off grid". Energy storage is often a challenge and powering your transportation would be a excellent use of excess power. (This is much easier than burying dinosaurs in your yard and waiting.....)

I'm not too crazy about EV's myself. I would not consider the Tesla because the range was too small and there were no solar options. Getting 15 free miles a day on a car that's parked outside is appealing to me. My GM does a decent 550-mile range (I managed to average around 23 mpg on a long drive in Sonora). My F-150 had a 36-gallon tank but the new Cheyenne got me a little concerned with only 90 liters (about 24 gallons) but my hypermiling techniques helped me overcome that part since the area is pretty shady and I usually go straight to the house without stopping anywhere else.

gearheadesw · December 5, 2019

It’s an electric vehicle, how does one charge an electric car? Ah, with a coal fired power plant, makes perfect sense, dig up the Earth more to get the heavy metas to produce the car, the dig up more to run it. Sounds perfectly sustainable to me, WTF, this is foreword progress? Let’s all jump on the electric car bandwagon and kill the earth quicker.

Colossus · December 6, 2019

But but but.. Then einviro nazis have shut down all the coal fire plants.. or had them converted to natural gas.. or solar... or wind.. or.. hamster wheel....

Donstar · December 6, 2019

On 12/5/2019 at 6:33 AM, gearheadesw said:

Let’s all jump on the electric car bandwagon and kill the earth quicker.

The reality is that doing nothing is the quickest way to kill the earth. I see the EV "bandwagon" as only part of a bigger change. The challenges with power generation and transmission, as you've identified, are part of the equation. The efficiency and environmental impact from the production of power has, and will continue to improve, dramatically.

KARNUT · December 6, 2019

I buy it’s possible to take ourselves out with foolishness. We’re not doing it currently. As far as taking out the earth, not going to happen. We’re not that clever.

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