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Dude have you ever been in the shade before? Yes the dyed glass does not offer any UV protection but it sure does help a bit with the heat. Not a lot but it does.

 

You are correct but it does help slightly with heat.

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1 hour ago, shakenfake said:

Dude have you ever been in the shade before? Yes the dyed glass does not offer any UV protection but it sure does help a bit with the heat. Not a lot but it does.

 

You are correct but it does help slightly with heat.

Are you talking to me or the other gentlemen who is struggling understanding how effective tint is compared to a dyed glass?  
 

Who uses the word “Dude” anymore!?!🤣😂

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I was talking to you about the dyed glass helping slightly with the heat and also to you about how you are correct.

 

I do, I still use the word dude.

Posted
6 hours ago, shakenfake said:

I was talking to you about the dyed glass helping slightly with the heat and also to you about how you are correct.

 

I do, I still use the word dude.

I thought you were.  And I was just giving you a little $h!t!!  It's all good man! 

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23 hours ago, shakenfake said:

I was talking to you about the dyed glass helping slightly with the heat and also to you about how you are correct.

 

I do, I still use the word dude.

Look at all of his posts; he loves to argue.  The "solar" glass in cars does offer UV protection but not IR (heat).  Same goes for sunglasses which are molded and offer UV protection without a film.  If you scroll up, you can see the definition of solar glass.

 

His only replies are from tinting companies but I digress.  I tinted my windows because I like to filter out more IR and love the look.  That's all :)

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21 minutes ago, Rob Mugs said:

Look at all of his posts; he loves to argue.  The "solar" glass in cars does offer UV protection but not IR (heat).  Same goes for sunglasses which are molded and offer UV protection without a film.  If you scroll up, you can see the definition of solar glass.

 

His only replies are from tinting companies but I digress.  I tinted my windows because I like to filter out more IR and love the look.  That's all :)

Oh I know lol

 

I also tint for those reasons. 50% on the shield, 30% on the front two and 17% over the back three with factory privacy glass. Probably going darker in the back as well.

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1 hour ago, shakenfake said:

Oh I know lol

 

I also tint for those reasons. 50% on the shield, 30% on the front two and 17% over the back three with factory privacy glass. Probably going darker in the back as well.

Never did the shield but I live in the midwest.  We don't get quite as toasty as you folks.  Otherwise, I'm pretty similar 

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She needs a bath but useless until the snow and salt are gone

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Posted
1 hour ago, Rob Mugs said:

Look at all of his posts; he loves to argue.  The "solar" glass in cars does offer UV protection but not IR (heat).  Same goes for sunglasses which are molded and offer UV protection without a film.  If you scroll up, you can see the definition of solar glass.

 

His only replies are from tinting companies but I digress.  I tinted my windows because I like to filter out more IR and love the look.  That's all :)

I don't love to argue, you called me out on my claim, I supported my claim, and I love to prove you wrong! You can digress all you want, but facts are facts. You seem like a guy who would argue with a surgeon, doctor, or a dentist because you feel it should be done your way. Tinters know tint, and my buddy knows his $h!t. 

 

He thinks your quite ignorant when I told him what you were arguing with me about, and he stated come on up to South Dakota and he will prove you wrong! And show you the difference, and the fact you don't totally understand the total values of tint really makes me chuckle!  

 

Have a good day Mr. Muggs

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Posted
11 hours ago, Rob Mugs said:

She needs a bath but useless until the snow and salt are gone

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Is this a photo with 50 on the shield? 

Posted
14 hours ago, NightcrawlerZ71 said:

Is this a photo with 50 on the shield? 

 

Just the factory tint which is greater than or equal to 70% total light transmittance as well as less than 4% UV transmittance 

 

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On 2/21/2022 at 12:24 PM, It's Tim said:

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"If you are in an auto accident that you believe was caused by the other driver’s tinted windows, be sure to take pictures of the car and the scene before the evidence is removed or destroyed. Indeed, whether the windows were tinted could become an important part of the theory of liability that your experienced personal injury attorney uses to help you recover financial damages for your injury."

 

Yep, this has become quite common in PA now, probably because so many have illegally tinted front side windows and people love to run stop signs so we see a lot of accidents where someone turned into someone else.   You go from "well it's an accident and it was your fault but these things happen"  to "You illegally modified your vehicle to impede your visibility and caused an injury accident." an injury attorney can do far more with the later.   Insurance companies will also go after no-fault accidents (say in a parking lot) if one party had tinted windows and it was at night etc. where vision could have been a factor.  

 

What I've always wondered is why states/DOT don't go after the tint shops knowingly illegally modifying vehicles.  If the states feel it's a safety issue, then it would seem like any shop that tints them would be modifying a vehicle so it's unsafe.  I've read where tint shops will defend themselves saying that it's only illegal if you drive the car on the road and since they tint it in a shop it's legal until the customer takes it back on the roadway, and that's the customer's decision so we're not at fault or there will be an "For off road use only" disclaimer on the receipt.  It would be like a gun shop selling guns to felons defending their actions saying "Well I processed a sale for him, but I just put the gun out in the parking lot, I never gave it to him and I never saw him take possession of it. He decided to pick it up in the parking lot, but I didn't give it to him, so it's okay!"

 

The same is true for the excuse some shops use where they will tint anyone's windows illegally because some people might have a medical exemption for tinted windows.   Which is true, but in most cases where you do something others typically cannot due to a medical exemption it's usually required you provide proof of the exemption.   For example in some states if you have a disability you can hunt the archery season with a crossbow, but no state is going to put that exemption on your hunting license without you proving you have the medical disability that makes it so you cannot pull a normal bow. 

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My tint shop had a check box for "legal" and "illegal" tint and made the buyer sign a waiver if they wanted an illegal shade.  They said that many of the "illegal" buyers came back within a few months to have it replaced after getting a ticket or not being able to pass inspection.

 

The comparison to buying a gun is incorrect.  Selling a gun to a felon is illegal under all circumstances - no exceptions.  Having dark tinted windows is only illegal on the streets.  There's plenty of vehicles that are used for shows and off-road only.  This is exactly the same as all of the "illegal" lights that people install on their vehicles.  Very few light mods are DOT approved.  99% of them are "for off-road use only" but people use them on the streets as well.

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While my example of course is a bit tongue and cheek it exposes the ridiculous nature of the defense.   Off road lights are not really a good example either, because as long as they are turned off there's no violation. Perfectly legal with to mount/modify the vehicle with and drive on the road. It's only when the driver decides to turn them on driving on the road that there's a violation.  Tinted windows are not the same, they are illegal on the road at all times, there's no "functionality" to them that makes them legal/illegal on the road.   

 

Perhaps that could be the tint shops new defense!  "Well the driver promised me they'd always drive with the windows down and only put the windows up when the car was parked!,  I guess they forgot when they left!" 

 

Non-road legal Show cars and Off-road vehicles would be easy to spot, they'd arrive on a trailer to the tint shop or the tint shop would have to come to the vehicle off site.   If the vehicle is driven to the shop, it's fair to assume it's road legal, at least the shop should not be responsible for making sure it is.   Now if someone trailers their car to the tint shop and tells them it's a show car only and not for road use, that of course would be different.  Now the customer is purposely misleading the shop by lying about the vehicle's ability to be used on road. 

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Even clear factory glass blocks UV. An easy way I can tell this is because the transition lenses on my eyeglasses don't darken inside the truck. That's because they react to UV light. I don't doubt that ceramic tint is superior in blocking UV in addition to blocking some IR, but it's just not accurate to say that a factory dyed glass doesn't block UV.

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