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diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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Where I used to live, in the city our neighbor bought a new truck every 3 years. He bought 11 trucks while we lived there, would be nice to have the money he lost.

The wife got a new car every 5 years.

 

In that time I had 2 trucks, bought used and ran to over 200k.

Th wife had 4 cars, 1 stolen, 1 totaled when it was rear ended, both high mileage vehicles.

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Some interesting info here.  A picture of the old AMSOIL EaO20 filter on the left and the updated Ea15k20 on the right.  Grumpy, you should like this.  Look at the micron on each box.   

newdude
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GM just dropped the E designation on it but its still the same filter as the PF-63E, 22psi.

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PF-2232 stays for 01-19.  Its the 2020+up L5P with the PF-26 that the new interchange applies to.  All 2023+forward trucks off the assembly line will have a PF-63 on them.

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KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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7 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

Where I used to live, in the city our neighbor bought a new truck every 3 years. He bought 11 trucks while we lived there, would be nice to have the money he lost.

The wife got a new car every 5 years.

 

In that time I had 2 trucks, bought used and ran to over 200k.

Th wife had 4 cars, 1 stolen, 1 totaled when it was rear ended, both high mileage vehicles.

I’ve had a different vehicles every two years or more often since I started driving. Sometimes by trading, improving and selling. Or for work due to high driving miles. The toys were hobbies. My wife goes 5 years or more. The last one is a 2011 and is gem. Her toy is a 2001 and pristine. I have had the pleasure of owning some real classics. My latest toy is my avalanche. I look back with fondness and good memories. As far as hobbies go it wasn’t bad considering what my friends spent on boats, hunting, motorcycles, and motor homes. My hobbies now days is visiting casinos and playing cards with my wife. She’s not into car shows or drag racing. As it turns out a cheaper hobby. Even though I was pretty good at buying and selling cars. A man has to have a hobby. You just need to budget.

Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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22 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Customboss -

 

I know a lot about some things but not so much about Petroleum Distillates…
 

What oil and filter do you favor? Do you think a magnet on the pan and or filter is worthwhile ?

 

Did you not read him say, "A filter is a screen door on a submarine"? They are pointless. GM wear study is bogus. 

Lubrication is the job of additives, not oil. He's experimenting with which ones. Viscosity is meaningless. Stribeck is obsolete? :wtf: 

 

He's told you what he thinks. Believe him! 

 

 

 

 

 

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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On 4/23/2024 at 11:12 PM, NaturallyAspirated said:

Ha ha!!! 
 

I still don’t think he really thinks that…

 

what say you CustomBoss?

 

About what I thought.

 

 :lurk:

 

 

 

 

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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9 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Wow Grumpy Bear. You were right. 
 

oh well, just filled mine up with the usual M1 and M1 filter with FilterMag and plug magnet.

 

Allow me, please: @VicFirth posted the Lubrizol link a few days ago in another thread. 

 

Oil:

 

Can we see how inadequate the Dexos license is? API SP is worse. Porsche C30 is the toughest spec for *W30 oils. When you find an oil that on the bottle notes it covers C30, and SP you have your winner. Mobil 1 has a product or two in that category. But only a few. Same is true of the boutique oils. Not all Red Line, AMSOIL, HPL fluids will cover both, but each has at least one. Look at the Euro Oils. A few other self-oils as well. Mild to wild on pricing. Pick you poison.

 

Relative Performance Comparison Tool for Passenger Car Specifications - Engine Oil Additives - The Lubrizol Corporation

 

Play with the link. The Porsche spec for any gas motor oil is the highest standard. We may not know what is in our oil, but we do know that those that carry the spec have passed the actual test to carry it. 

 

Once you find one, verify the acid package can go the distance you are asking from it by UOA. Keep it over 3 bare minimum. 50% of new tested by the same lab and not the magazine value (different test). Don't buy into that run it into the dirt garbage Mcdonnall's labs push. 

 

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Filter: 

 

Purolator ONE, Fram XG, AMSOIL OE, Royal Purple are all a cut above the Mobil 1 filter, and some are half the price. Mobil-1 filters sacrifice efficiency for longevity. It's not horrible, it too expensive to be average. 

 

Filter Magnets: 

 

Iron, cobalt, things that are magnetic will be caught. Things that are not will not. If a motor is healthy, iron will be measured in part per million in the 5-to-10-micron range.  Smaller hurts little and larger 20/30 micron is something coming apart. (or early on break in and machining debris). The best argument for using one is iron is hard enough to potentially cause damage. Suspender and a belt. Hurts nothing. 

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customboss Senior Enthusiast

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On 4/22/2024 at 10:44 PM, NaturallyAspirated said:

Customboss -

 

I know a lot about some things but not so much about Petroleum Distillates…
 

What oil and filter do you favor? Do you think a magnet on the pan and or filter is worthwhile ?

Cheapest oil filter that fits and is reasonably well made. I try to match oil to engine. 
If you need magnets in a modern engine we have problems because not much besides cams, crank, and lifters  are gonna shed any ferritic materials. 

customboss Senior Enthusiast

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On 4/23/2024 at 9:37 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Did you not read him say, "A filter is a screen door on a submarine"? They are pointless. GM wear study is bogus. 

Lubrication is the job of additives, not oil. He's experimenting with which ones. Viscosity is meaningless. Stribeck is obsolete? :wtf: 

 

He's told you what he thinks. Believe him! 

 

 

 

 

 

Ur just jealous and for some reason I did not see the question which is not a surprise since Grumpy is dumping me on his threads? Cheap and insecure Grumpy that’s a bad combo. 

 

 

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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I'm sorry guys but you two are ridiculous. 

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KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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9 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

I'm sorry guys but you two are ridiculous. 

I did learn things initially. The horse has been beaten so hard the bones have disappeared. 

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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32 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

I'm sorry guys but you two are ridiculous. 

 

20 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I did learn things initially. The horse has been beaten so hard the bones have disappeared. 

 

 

Did you learn there is more than one way to 'CANCEL' the truth. :sigh:

 

Did you learn that when such an attempt fails the fallback it bury it in so much crap you can't see it? :wtf:

 

Did you lean most people never really care about it, just like to beat those bones? Ridiculous? 🤔

 

How useful would a tread be if the question asked was answered? Truth was relevant.   😱

 

 

customboss Senior Enthusiast

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2 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

 

 

Did you learn there is more than one way to 'CANCEL' the truth. :sigh:

 

Did you learn that when such an attempt fails the fallback it bury it in so much crap you can't see it? :wtf:

 

Did you lean most people never really care about it, just like to beat those bones? Ridiculous? 🤔

 

How useful would a tread be if the question asked was answered? Truth was relevant.   😱

 

 

Whaaaat???? Blah blah blah 

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