I got the window sticker MISSING OPTIONS

[GN2018]

So, you don’t think there would be a significant issue if you turned off your backup sensors and then (God forbid) you hit a person?  Sure, it would be an accident but the lawyers I see on tv every night would have a field day with that information.

 

Personally, I find some of the new stuff very helpful.  The backup camera being one of the best.  It’s not so I can be lazy and let someone or something else do the driving, but the assistance they provide is much appreciated.  Much of the other stuff has limited benefit, like the blind spot indicators, but I can ignore them.  I would not shut them off.

[Dirk13]

5 hours ago, 4banger said:

Attack the messenger strategy. A 21st century ‘go to’ for when the message is hard to attack because the truth is uncomfortable. Anyhow, if that’s how you read it and that’s how you want to respond that’s on you. 
 

In case you haven’t noticed it’s the few who are immune to the group think and current public perceptions which have been nudged a certain direction a very long time. And the past few years have shown just how smart it was to be with the masses ‘perception’ eh? I’ll stick to a reality truth based world regardless of comfort. The masses can keep going with the nudging towards opposite day clown world.
 

So what you’re saying is if it’s not the perception of the masses then it’s a distorted perception? Truth could care less what size group perceives what, it’s pretty clear that public perception can be nudged to the opposite of the truth, have you been paying attention the past 3 years?Bro...whatever makes you feel comfortable lol.
 

Don’t like facts? There’s no high horse being ridden here, feel about it however you like. Perceptions have nothing to do with this. Masses are comfort addicted and love being sold more and more convenience to point of having to do as little as possible and when sthf we become useless. Those are facts. Why tesla so popular? Rest my case, people don’t wanna drive. They wanna buy the drive to do other stuff while on the way. Your insurance and liability will show you very quick what a great idea that is. That’s all I’m saying here...less is more, nannies and aids are bad. Turn off as much of that crap as you can to ensure you keep the reality of task at hand every time you start that weapon/death trap.

Just because you’re not capable of using the features to aid your drive instead of control it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Stop painting with such a broad brush. 
 

Teslas are popular because they are electric. You know they aren’t all self driving correct?

[KVelec4326]

15 hours ago, GN2018 said:

So, you don’t think there would be a significant issue if you turned off your backup sensors and then (God forbid) you hit a person?  Sure, it would be an accident but the lawyers I see on tv every night would have a field day with that information.

 

Personally, I find some of the new stuff very helpful.  The backup camera being one of the best.  It’s not so I can be lazy and let someone or something else do the driving, but the assistance they provide is much appreciated.  Much of the other stuff has limited benefit, like the blind spot indicators, but I can ignore them.  I would not shut them off.

I had to sign a document stating I knew they were missing and I believe there is a paper in my glovebox stating it also. I believe GM has worked with their legal team to make sure they can't be held for it

[4banger]

19 hours ago, Dirk13 said:

Just because you’re not capable of using the features to aid your drive instead of control it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Stop painting with such a broad brush. 
 

Teslas are popular because they are electric. You know they aren’t all self driving correct?

same people buying them bought Prius's before them, only kinds, the virtue signallers or those who have no business behind the wheel and lots of crossover there, they hate driving, don't have the first clue, so they come out with even more nannies, aides and autonomous features and voila, people can't wait to do less, pay more, and virtue signal through the roof too.....these are the cars for the virtual signallers or those that hate driving and shouldn't drive...period, some great instagram pages to follow about both of them lol, it's funny how many of their drivers seem to fit these molds, they really know how to look after their fellow man on the road

 

and I am capable of using the features lol, the best way is turn them off so I do so whenever possible and ignore their existence where ever else possible, so you stay focused on what your eyes, hands and feet are doing 100% of the time

[4banger]

23 hours ago, GN2018 said:

So, you don’t think there would be a significant issue if you turned off your backup sensors and then (God forbid) you hit a person?  Sure, it would be an accident but the lawyers I see on tv every night would have a field day with that information.

 

Personally, I find some of the new stuff very helpful.  The backup camera being one of the best.  It’s not so I can be lazy and let someone or something else do the driving, but the assistance they provide is much appreciated.  Much of the other stuff has limited benefit, like the blind spot indicators, but I can ignore them.  I would not shut them off.

bro, I got reliant on these back up sensors in a 2013 suburban ltz, then backed into what was a bunch of empty stalls after swinging wide loop and reversing in using inside mirror with the stereo too loud and normally didn't run stereo loud so I was used to the beepers as a 'fail safe' but it was a great song and so I had it turned up and someone zipped up the ramp right into that stall as I was backing in, without those nannies and aids you use all mirrors, back up cameras etc. anyway, thought I mentioned that already...I speak from experience when getting complacent with all these wonderful aids and nannies, takes the driver right out of you, any guesses who got the liable on that one? ya....that's the entire point of my comments here, turn the crap off, if it didn't come great bonus for you, your insurance only cares about what your eyes, hands and feet are doing 100% of the time and it's on YOU if you decide to get complacent about that and the more crap they put in these cars only encourages what comes natural to humanity (complacency), you make something this dangerous to operate more designed to make you fall asleep at the wheel and you ask for trouble...follow some prius/Tesla pages on instagram, but it started long before that, then make the licenses even easier to get and voila...what's the wrecks/deaths and overall horror of motor vehicles on this planet? ya, half shouldn't have a license and making these almost drive themselves is the dumbest idea ever....unless it's owned by someone else, insured by someone else and you just pay a ride fee, like a bus, train, plane, uber, or stick to a bicycle perhaps so you're less of a danger to others

 

Tesla cracks me up, you buy a car you don't own, it can be taken control of by others at the end of it's systems at any time, and you're the one liable for the accidents even though it's not even your car. Why in the world would anyone pay for that? Uber thanks...I'll do that with much less cost and liability. Your horse should not be connected to anyone else ever. No internet, nothing! Not unless they are also named on the pink slip and insurance slips and pay their share for each. Onstar? ya...buh bye. Disconnect number 1. Insurance and pink slip says the reigns are mine...Onstar can say otherwise anytime it likes. Sold in the name of convenience. No, you can plug into my truck when it comes in for service, otherwise...not a facking chance you can control a critical part of my ride by who knows who or whenever they may want. Really wanna mess with people maybe report their gm rides stolen and see how long they keep that onstar connected haha, giving myself ideas for my gm friends. Takes a long time to get this far from reality and truth but here we are. Any autonomous vehicles going forward should be owned by corporation that controls them, you just pay your monthly membership and order them up when you need. There's no other logical way to own a Tesla. 

[Daniel Formichelli]

@lonewanderer812 question I am waiting on the same thing for mine.  Do you have the heated steering wheel and the button on yours? 

[Dirk13]

4 hours ago, Daniel Formichelli said:

@lonewanderer812 question I am waiting on the same thing for mine.  Do you have the heated steering wheel and the button on yours? 

I thought the trucks missing the features to be retrofitted later all still had the buttons, they just didn’t work. Does your window sticker specifically say “not equipped with xxxxxx, will be retrofitted”? Under the options section 

[Daniel Formichelli]

[lonewanderer812]

Sorry for the late reply but no my steering wheel doesn't have the heat button on it. I have the heated seat buttons but not that one. It is on my build sheet though that both the seats and steering wheel would be retrofitted. I actually just got the notice for the seats yesterday so hopefully get that done soon. I guess the steering wheel one isn't ready yet...